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    <title>topic Re: PenFed pending ... maybe decline later.. in Credit Cards</title>
    <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/PenFed-pending-maybe-decline-later/m-p/786045#M237992</link>
    <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/7511"&gt;@haulingthescoreup&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/7511"&gt;@haulingthescoreup&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;I * think * PenFed has a secured card. Since you've already gotten a hard inq for applying, if you get turned down for a regular card, you might try for the secured instead.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm not up on the details though about later conversion to unsecured and all, so you'd want to do some research on that.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;PenFed does like to see steady income, and enough of it. For instance, self-employed people often have to go through the wringer when applying.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks HTSU. I'm thinking of applying one of their cards since i've already gotten a hard inq. However, i thought secured card was only for those who like to rebuild their credit? If i applied for secured card and got one, can i change the card to unsecured one later on?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thing is i don't wanna have another unneccessary CC just because i don't wanna waste on a hard inq.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Well, that's what I was saying --I don't know the details on their secured card, but I know that I've seen posts about it. Maybe someone else can chime in.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;With PenFed, they hard you on EQ when you first apply to join, even before you apply for a CC, a loan, etc. This is pretty common with CU's. That hard inq is then good for 60-90 days, so you can app your brains out during this period, and they'll just keep working off the EQ report that they already pulled.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In other words, you've already taken the hit, and there shouldn't be any more inqs for a while, unless you ask them to pull a new report for some reason.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;--unless they've changed their policy recently, in which case, someone please post a correction PDQ!&amp;nbsp; &lt;img id="smileyvery-happy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyvery-happy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Very Happy" title="Smiley Very Happy" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;If they INQ'd you once, you won't get hit again if you try for an alternative product.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What is crazy about their secured card products, though, is the way they are underwritten.&amp;nbsp; They have, in fact, two types of secured cards:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1.&amp;nbsp; For those with zero credit;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2.&amp;nbsp; For those with troubled credit.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If you fall somewhere in between, they will deny you for a secured card.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2010 06:50:44 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-11-25T06:50:44Z</dc:date>
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      <title>PenFed pending ... maybe decline later..</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/PenFed-pending-maybe-decline-later/m-p/785383#M237878</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I joined PenFed by paying $20 and $5 for saving account, and applied for Visa Platinum Case Reward card since they already pulled my EQ inqury. It's been pending 3 days and today i called them. They told me to provide additional income or someone who can co-sign me. I put down $25k income including my financial aid from school and family support. I am going to college right now and currently i don't have a job.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Sounds like i'll get declined if i don't provide either of them. I can ask my cousin to do co-sign for me, but it's gonna be a favor. Is PenFed credit card worth to ask someone to do co-sign for me? Should i try for PSECU?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks in advance.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 02:52:51 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/PenFed-pending-maybe-decline-later/m-p/785383#M237878</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-11-24T02:52:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PenFed pending ... maybe decline later..</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/PenFed-pending-maybe-decline-later/m-p/785387#M237880</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;FYI : i joined PenFed last friday and applied CC on Saturday.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 02:54:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/PenFed-pending-maybe-decline-later/m-p/785387#M237880</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-11-24T02:54:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PenFed pending ... maybe decline later..</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/PenFed-pending-maybe-decline-later/m-p/785495#M237904</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Anyone?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 07:25:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/PenFed-pending-maybe-decline-later/m-p/785495#M237904</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-11-24T07:25:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PenFed pending ... maybe decline later</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/PenFed-pending-maybe-decline-later/m-p/785501#M237905</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Since they asked you for more income or a co-signer, it sounds like you don't have a choice but to get a co-signer if you really want that card. I don't know anything about that card though, so I can't tell you if it'd be worth it or not. Good luck though.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 10:21:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/PenFed-pending-maybe-decline-later/m-p/785501#M237905</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-11-24T10:21:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PenFed pending ... maybe decline later..</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/PenFed-pending-maybe-decline-later/m-p/785531#M237909</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Honestly, sounds like you just don't have enough income to make them happy. They're probably asking for a co-signer because they can provide more income on the application. Your scores are pretty high, I don't think that's the issue.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 13:24:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/PenFed-pending-maybe-decline-later/m-p/785531#M237909</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-11-24T13:24:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PenFed pending ... maybe decline later..</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/PenFed-pending-maybe-decline-later/m-p/785533#M237910</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Are you over 21?&amp;nbsp; If not you are required to A) Either prove you can pay or B) have a co-signer&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 13:29:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/PenFed-pending-maybe-decline-later/m-p/785533#M237910</guid>
      <dc:creator>pmbrian</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-11-24T13:29:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PenFed pending ... maybe decline later..</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/PenFed-pending-maybe-decline-later/m-p/785693#M237933</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Honestly, sounds like you just don't have enough income to make them happy. They're probably asking for a co-signer because they can provide more income on the application. Your scores are pretty high, I don't think that's the issue.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Ya they said scores isn't issue. Even though i put down $25k income, they said Loan officer asks me to provide additional income or have someone to join my acccount with good amount of income. &lt;img id="smileysad" class="emoticon emoticon-smileysad" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif" alt="Smiley Sad" title="Smiley Sad" /&gt;((&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 18:19:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/PenFed-pending-maybe-decline-later/m-p/785693#M237933</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-11-24T18:19:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PenFed pending ... maybe decline later..</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/PenFed-pending-maybe-decline-later/m-p/785695#M237934</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/385454"&gt;@pmbrian&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Are you over 21?&amp;nbsp; If not you are required to A) Either prove you can pay or B) have a co-signer&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Yes i'm. I shouldn't have applied this in the first place,so i didnt have to waste one inqury on them &lt;img id="smileysad" class="emoticon emoticon-smileysad" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif" alt="Smiley Sad" title="Smiley Sad" /&gt;( ..&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 18:20:54 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/PenFed-pending-maybe-decline-later/m-p/785695#M237934</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-11-24T18:20:54Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PenFed pending ... maybe decline later..</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/PenFed-pending-maybe-decline-later/m-p/785699#M237935</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I * think * PenFed has a secured card. Since you've already gotten a hard inq for applying, if you get turned down for a regular card, you might try for the secured instead.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm not up on the details though about later conversion to unsecured and all, so you'd want to do some research on that.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;PenFed does like to see steady income, and enough of it. For instance, self-employed people often have to go through the wringer when applying.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 18:22:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/PenFed-pending-maybe-decline-later/m-p/785699#M237935</guid>
      <dc:creator>haulingthescoreup</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-11-24T18:22:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PenFed pending ... maybe decline later..</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/PenFed-pending-maybe-decline-later/m-p/785703#M237936</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/7511"&gt;@haulingthescoreup&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;I * think * PenFed has a secured card. Since you've already gotten a hard inq for applying, if you get turned down for a regular card, you might try for the secured instead.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm not up on the details though about later conversion to unsecured and all, so you'd want to do some research on that.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;PenFed does like to see steady income, and enough of it. For instance, self-employed people often have to go through the wringer when applying.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks HTSU. I'm thinking of applying one of their cards since i've already gotten a hard inq. However, i thought secured card was only for those who like to rebuild their credit? If i applied for secured card and got one, can i change the card to unsecured one later on?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thing is i don't wanna have another unneccessary CC just because i don't wanna waste on a hard inq.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 18:29:16 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/PenFed-pending-maybe-decline-later/m-p/785703#M237936</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-11-24T18:29:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PenFed pending ... maybe decline later..</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/PenFed-pending-maybe-decline-later/m-p/785711#M237937</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/7511"&gt;@haulingthescoreup&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;I * think * PenFed has a secured card. Since you've already gotten a hard inq for applying, if you get turned down for a regular card, you might try for the secured instead.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm not up on the details though about later conversion to unsecured and all, so you'd want to do some research on that.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;PenFed does like to see steady income, and enough of it. For instance, self-employed people often have to go through the wringer when applying.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks HTSU. I'm thinking of applying one of their cards since i've already gotten a hard inq. However, i thought secured card was only for those who like to rebuild their credit? If i applied for secured card and got one, can i change the card to unsecured one later on?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thing is i don't wanna have another unneccessary CC just because i don't wanna waste on a hard inq.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Well, that's what I was saying --I don't know the details on their secured card, but I know that I've seen posts about it. Maybe someone else can chime in.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;With PenFed, they hard you on EQ when you first apply to join, even before you apply for a CC, a loan, etc. This is pretty common with CU's. That hard inq is then good for 60-90 days, so you can app your brains out during this period, and they'll just keep working off the EQ report that they already pulled.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In other words, you've already taken the hit, and there shouldn't be any more inqs for a while, unless you ask them to pull a new report for some reason.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;--unless they've changed their policy recently, in which case, someone please post a correction PDQ!&amp;nbsp; &lt;img id="smileyvery-happy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyvery-happy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Very Happy" title="Smiley Very Happy" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 18:40:48 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/PenFed-pending-maybe-decline-later/m-p/785711#M237937</guid>
      <dc:creator>haulingthescoreup</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-11-24T18:40:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PenFed pending ... maybe decline later..</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/PenFed-pending-maybe-decline-later/m-p/786045#M237992</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/7511"&gt;@haulingthescoreup&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/7511"&gt;@haulingthescoreup&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;I * think * PenFed has a secured card. Since you've already gotten a hard inq for applying, if you get turned down for a regular card, you might try for the secured instead.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm not up on the details though about later conversion to unsecured and all, so you'd want to do some research on that.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;PenFed does like to see steady income, and enough of it. For instance, self-employed people often have to go through the wringer when applying.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks HTSU. I'm thinking of applying one of their cards since i've already gotten a hard inq. However, i thought secured card was only for those who like to rebuild their credit? If i applied for secured card and got one, can i change the card to unsecured one later on?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thing is i don't wanna have another unneccessary CC just because i don't wanna waste on a hard inq.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Well, that's what I was saying --I don't know the details on their secured card, but I know that I've seen posts about it. Maybe someone else can chime in.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;With PenFed, they hard you on EQ when you first apply to join, even before you apply for a CC, a loan, etc. This is pretty common with CU's. That hard inq is then good for 60-90 days, so you can app your brains out during this period, and they'll just keep working off the EQ report that they already pulled.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In other words, you've already taken the hit, and there shouldn't be any more inqs for a while, unless you ask them to pull a new report for some reason.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;--unless they've changed their policy recently, in which case, someone please post a correction PDQ!&amp;nbsp; &lt;img id="smileyvery-happy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyvery-happy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Very Happy" title="Smiley Very Happy" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;If they INQ'd you once, you won't get hit again if you try for an alternative product.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What is crazy about their secured card products, though, is the way they are underwritten.&amp;nbsp; They have, in fact, two types of secured cards:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1.&amp;nbsp; For those with zero credit;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2.&amp;nbsp; For those with troubled credit.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If you fall somewhere in between, they will deny you for a secured card.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2010 06:50:44 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/PenFed-pending-maybe-decline-later/m-p/786045#M237992</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-11-25T06:50:44Z</dc:date>
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