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    <title>topic Re: Zync chances? in Credit Cards</title>
    <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Zync-chances/m-p/793632#M239542</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;No one seems to know what is going on with Amex in regards to the Zync.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I was denied several times when my FICOs were in the 650-660 range, yet people have been approved with 620 and lower! &amp;nbsp;Amex's own internal scoring system (which they use, not FICO) has a lot of differences against how the FICO system evaluates your credit.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You never know, you MAY get approved, but I would certainly, in your case, wait until those baddies come off. &amp;nbsp;Why waste an inquiry to potential denial, on something that could be an approval as soon as that baddie is removed?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 07 Dec 2010 20:35:48 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>smc733</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-12-07T20:35:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Zync chances?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Zync-chances/m-p/793264#M239458</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I'm working to rebuild, but haven't done much other than get my util down under 9% at this point. My short term goal is to get a Zync card so that I can ditch the debit card and earn some points. My scores aren't great, but I've seen others qualify with what seems to be similar scores around here.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have a few lates, a few collections, but for the last three years I've had perfect payment history. My Equfax is 604 and my Transunion is 657, both FICO scores from myFICO. I have an NCO collection that will fall off as soon as I can get a letter to them because I'm sure they can't validate. I called them a few months ago trying to PIF and they refused to take my money because they couldn't find the account.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Long story short - pull the trigger now, or wait until some of the bogus reporting is resolved?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 07 Dec 2010 04:08:13 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-12-07T04:08:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Zync chances?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Zync-chances/m-p/793270#M239459</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Why on earth would anyone apply for credit when their reports are about to get better???&amp;nbsp; &lt;img id="smileyvery-happy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyvery-happy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Very Happy" title="Smiley Very Happy" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Sorry, Booma, I'm not being personal. It's just that I see this all the time, and I don't get it.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Think of applying for new credit like going on a blind date. You can go with stringy, greasy hair, grubby clothes, and a rather odd odor, or you can clean up and look your best. Which do you think will have the, ummm, best results?&amp;nbsp; &lt;img id="smileywink" class="emoticon emoticon-smileywink" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif" alt="Smiley Wink" title="Smiley Wink" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;AmEx will pull your Experian report, although they use their own internal scoring system. As to your baddies, the older the better. Congrats on getting your util under control!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 07 Dec 2010 04:17:31 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>haulingthescoreup</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-12-07T04:17:31Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Zync chances?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Zync-chances/m-p/793272#M239460</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Eh, I just want a charge card, really. I'm not interested in gaining credit. With the packages I could rack up points instead of using my debit card, which gains me nothing. I've been responsible with my credit for the last three years and I want to feel like I've hit a milestone, maybe. There are a myriad of reasons, though I will admit that none of them are terribly logical. I'm about to spend a&amp;nbsp;sizeable amount of cash on Christmas, so gaining the points would be a bonus. Getting something for nothing...or a $25 annual fee...&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You're point is well taken, though.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 07 Dec 2010 04:24:23 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-12-07T04:24:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Zync chances?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Zync-chances/m-p/793274#M239461</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Amex will likely pull your Experian report, so you might check how that report compares (baddies, etc.) to your EQ and TU reports.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Although this is not a final determiner (it wasn't for me), have you tried the pre-approval page on Amex's website?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Score-wise, it might be a little early to apply, but also keep in mind that Amex reportedly uses its own algorithm for determining to whom it will offer its cards.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 07 Dec 2010 04:29:21 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>OnWayUpinTexas</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-12-07T04:29:21Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Zync chances?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Zync-chances/m-p/793282#M239464</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;AMEX is not too easy to understand. &amp;nbsp;They accepted me with low to mid 600 scores (I know they use their own rubric but it gives you an idea of where I was). &amp;nbsp;But, I was a past cardholder who made good on old accounts. &amp;nbsp;They certainly aren't throwing any revolvers at me yet...&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I say if you haven't been app crazy, nothing beats a try but a failure...and you won't know that till you try! &amp;nbsp;But if you know something really derogatory will be coming off...get it off!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 07 Dec 2010 04:32:44 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-12-07T04:32:44Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Zync chances?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Zync-chances/m-p/793632#M239542</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;No one seems to know what is going on with Amex in regards to the Zync.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I was denied several times when my FICOs were in the 650-660 range, yet people have been approved with 620 and lower! &amp;nbsp;Amex's own internal scoring system (which they use, not FICO) has a lot of differences against how the FICO system evaluates your credit.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You never know, you MAY get approved, but I would certainly, in your case, wait until those baddies come off. &amp;nbsp;Why waste an inquiry to potential denial, on something that could be an approval as soon as that baddie is removed?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 07 Dec 2010 20:35:48 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Zync-chances/m-p/793632#M239542</guid>
      <dc:creator>smc733</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-12-07T20:35:48Z</dc:date>
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