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    <title>topic Re: Orchard Secured Card Graduation in Credit Cards</title>
    <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Orchard-Secured-Card-Graduation/m-p/933938#M268451</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Nice. thats awesome. I think I will give the backdoor # a call and legitimately ask to close. What limit was your secured card when you called in wolf? WHat was your usage like with them (PIF every month?) How many years had you had the secured card?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Cheers!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 22:18:37 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>iainlbc</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2011-06-01T22:18:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Orchard Secured Card Graduation</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Orchard-Secured-Card-Graduation/m-p/933576#M268371</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I currently have&amp;nbsp;the secured card by Orchard for 3 years now and was just curious. Has anyone with this card had any recent success with graduating to unsecured?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 16:45:19 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Orchard-Secured-Card-Graduation/m-p/933576#M268371</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-06-01T16:45:19Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Orchard Secured Card Graduation</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Orchard-Secured-Card-Graduation/m-p/933592#M268374</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Given the recent CLI success, you may wanna try the backdoor number.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 16:58:21 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Orchard-Secured-Card-Graduation/m-p/933592#M268374</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-06-01T16:58:21Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Orchard Secured Card Graduation</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Orchard-Secured-Card-Graduation/m-p/933594#M268375</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;No success...&amp;nbsp; I just had a round of communication with these people about a month ago... I was informed that there is no graduation outside of closing the account and then applying for an unsecured card, I was also informed the only way for a CLI was to send them more $$$.&amp;nbsp; I have 3 cards with other companies that are unsecured - doesn't matter.&amp;nbsp; You also can not have more than one card in the HSBC family.&amp;nbsp; I feel like I'm stuck because this is my oldest card at almost 5 years so I need it for length of credit history.&amp;nbsp; Please anyone who gets a different answer let us know!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 16:58:39 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Orchard-Secured-Card-Graduation/m-p/933594#M268375</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-06-01T16:58:39Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Orchard Secured Card Graduation</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Orchard-Secured-Card-Graduation/m-p/933750#M268407</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;No success...&amp;nbsp; I just had a round of communication with these people about a month ago... I was informed that there is no graduation outside of closing the account and then applying for an unsecured card, I was also informed the only way for a CLI was to send them more $$$.&amp;nbsp; I have 3 cards with other companies that are unsecured - doesn't matter.&amp;nbsp; You also can not have more than one card in the HSBC family.&amp;nbsp; I feel like I'm stuck because this is my oldest card at almost 5 years so I need it for length of credit history.&amp;nbsp; Please anyone who gets a different answer let us know!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I am confused when you said you cannoty have more than one card from the HSBC family, I had 4 cards, an Orchard secured card, a Best Buy Store Cad, and Best Buy Reward Zone MasterCard and a HSBC Discover Card&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 19:27:40 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Orchard-Secured-Card-Graduation/m-p/933750#M268407</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-06-01T19:27:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Orchard Secured Card Graduation</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Orchard-Secured-Card-Graduation/m-p/933800#M268421</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;@kelli1970 and OP&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I was informed that there is no graduation outside of closing the account and then applying for an unsecured card, I was also informed the only way for a CLI was to send them more $$$.&amp;nbsp; I have 3 cards with other companies that are unsecured - doesn't matter.﻿&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF"&gt;I have the same experience with them. I have tried calling the customer service # on the card, as well as backdoor for a CLI. &amp;nbsp;I was told to apply for the unsecured card and the only way to CLI my secured card was sending more money.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF"&gt;I am in the same boat, this is a 5 year old card (my oldest). Kelli you are not stuck too bad becuase the history will stay reported by the CRA's for 10 years, but after that it will drop off. I am debating closing this card.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF"&gt;I feel like a legitimate threat to close might garner different results, but it still seems pretty unlikely. Its a shame they don't throw their good customers a bone...&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 20:13:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Orchard-Secured-Card-Graduation/m-p/933800#M268421</guid>
      <dc:creator>iainlbc</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-06-01T20:13:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Orchard Secured Card Graduation</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Orchard-Secured-Card-Graduation/m-p/933806#M268424</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/373704"&gt;@iainlbc&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;@Anonymous and OP&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I was informed that there is no graduation outside of closing the account and then applying for an unsecured card, I was also informed the only way for a CLI was to send them more $$$.&amp;nbsp; I have 3 cards with other companies that are unsecured - doesn't matter.﻿&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000ff"&gt;I have the same experience with them. I have tried calling the customer service # on the card, as well as backdoor for a CLI. &amp;nbsp;I was told to apply for the unsecured card and the only way to CLI my secured card was sending more money.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000ff"&gt;I am in the same boat, this is a 5 year old card (my oldest). Kelli you are not stuck too bad becuase the history will stay reported by the CRA's for 10 years, but after that it will drop off. I am debating closing this card.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000ff"&gt;I feel like a legitimate threat to close might garner different results, but it still seems pretty unlikely. Its a shame they don't throw their good customers a bone...&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am pretty happy with the bone they threw me last week.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Already collecting rewards.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Was-planning-to-close-my-HSBC-secured-card-But/td-p/927994" target="_blank"&gt;http://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Was-planning-to-close-my-HSBC-secured-card-But/td-p/927994&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 20:24:24 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Orchard-Secured-Card-Graduation/m-p/933806#M268424</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-06-01T20:24:24Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Orchard Secured Card Graduation</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Orchard-Secured-Card-Graduation/m-p/933918#M268447</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I responded to a preapproved offer from HSBC and was denied solely because I already had a card from them, even though it was Orchard.&amp;nbsp; BB, RZ, Discover and others are apparently different than their main branded card...&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 22:10:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Orchard-Secured-Card-Graduation/m-p/933918#M268447</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-06-01T22:10:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Orchard Secured Card Graduation</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Orchard-Secured-Card-Graduation/m-p/933938#M268451</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Nice. thats awesome. I think I will give the backdoor # a call and legitimately ask to close. What limit was your secured card when you called in wolf? WHat was your usage like with them (PIF every month?) How many years had you had the secured card?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Cheers!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 22:18:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Orchard-Secured-Card-Graduation/m-p/933938#M268451</guid>
      <dc:creator>iainlbc</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-06-01T22:18:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Orchard Secured Card Graduation</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Orchard-Secured-Card-Graduation/m-p/933966#M268452</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I've had&amp;nbsp;mine almost 5 years with a $200 CL, never late, I have a few small things auto-paid with this card, use it for gas now &amp;amp; then, sometimes carry a small balance.&amp;nbsp; Starter card, I thought it would grow with me...&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 22:41:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Orchard-Secured-Card-Graduation/m-p/933966#M268452</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-06-01T22:41:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Orchard Secured Card Graduation</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Orchard-Secured-Card-Graduation/m-p/945976#M271301</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Bumping for an update.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I also have a secured card with Orchard and I called last year to request a graduation and I was only told that I was not eligible at the time; but not that graduations were no longer offered. My CL is $2000 and I have been with them for over 3 years now, I have never been late,&amp;nbsp;keep balance low. I've keep&amp;nbsp;my account in perfect standing,&amp;nbsp;so I really don't want to close the account. I am thinking about calling the backdoor number and threaten to close the account if they don't graduate it to an unsecured account and see what luck I will have with that.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Any help is greatly appreciated.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 09:47:19 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Orchard-Secured-Card-Graduation/m-p/945976#M271301</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-06-15T09:47:19Z</dc:date>
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