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    <title>topic Re: Discover Denial!!! in Credit Cards</title>
    <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Discover-Denial/m-p/1048014#M293963</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;And you say that you recently were approved for AmEx?&amp;nbsp; I hope you don't mind me asking, but which card did you app for, what report did they pull and what was your score?&amp;nbsp; I was under the impression that AmEx primarily pulled Experian, therefore if most of your baddies were on TU then that might explain the denial from Discover.&amp;nbsp; Or did you have the same amount of baddies on both?&amp;nbsp; Were you a prior AmEx customer and if so did they back date you?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 02:09:31 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2011-10-05T02:09:31Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Discover Denial!!!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Discover-Denial/m-p/1047990#M293957</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;So I thought I would still be on my lucky train with my Amex approval this week, why not try for a Discover card. Well I got an instant denial and a letter too.Awesome!! But why my fico TU score here says 703 and discover is saying 688..?? Working on that last collection then onto the judgements!!!!!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;FEDERAL EQUAL CREDIT OPPORTUNITY ACT NOTICE: The federal Equal Credit Opportunity Act prohibits creditors from discriminating against credit applicants on the basis of race, color, religion, national origin, sex, marital status, age (provided that the applicant has the capacity to enter into a binding contract); because all or part of the applicant's income derives from any public assistance program; or because the applicant has in good faith exercised any right under the Consumer Credit Protection Act. The federal agency which administers compliance with this law concerning Discover Bank, the issuer of the Discover Card, is the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, FDIC Consumer Response Center, 2345 Grand Boulevard, Suite 100, Kansas City, MO 64108.﻿&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; color: #293033; background: white;"&gt;PO BOX 84130&lt;BR /&gt;SALT LAKE CITY,&amp;nbsp; UT&amp;nbsp; 84130-4130&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;October 4, 2011&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 9.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; color: #293033;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; color: #293033; background: white;"&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Dear dbadup:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Thank you for your recent credit application. We sincerely appreciate your interest in Discover Card. After carefully considering your application we are unable to approve your request at this time for the reason(s) listed below. Please disregard any additional correspondence you may have received from Discover Card regarding this application,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;JUDGMENT&lt;BR /&gt;COLLECTION&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;If you have any questions regarding this letter, please write to the address listed at the top of this letter.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 9.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; color: #293033;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; color: #293033; background: white;"&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;New Accounts Department&lt;BR /&gt;Application Number: 1127721xxxxxxxxx&lt;BR /&gt;Letter Code: xxxxxx&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;!--  [if !supportLineBreakNewLine]  --&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;!--  [endif]  --&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; color: #293033; background: white;"&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; color: #293033; background: white;"&gt;Your Discover Card application was processed by a credit scoring system that assigns a numerical value to the various pieces of information we consider in evaluating an application. These numerical values are based upon the results of analysis conducted on repayment histories of a large number of customers. The information you provided in your application did not score a sufficient number of points for approval of the application. Our credit decision was based in whole or in part on information obtained from the reporting agency listed below.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 9.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; color: #293033;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; color: #293033; background: white;"&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;You have a right under the Fair Credit Reporting Act to know the information contained in your credit file at the consumer reporting agency listed below. This agency played no part in our decision and is unable to supply specific reasons why we have denied credit to you. You also have a right to a free copy of your report from the consumer reporting agency, if you request it no later than 60 days after you receive this notice. In addition, if you find that any information contained in the report you receive is inaccurate or incomplete, you have the right to dispute the matter with the consumer reporting agency.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;For a free copy of your credit bureau report, contact:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;TRANS UNION-CONSUMER RELATIONS&lt;BR /&gt;PO BOX 1000&lt;BR /&gt;2 BALDWIN PLACE&lt;BR /&gt;CHESTER,&amp;nbsp; PA&amp;nbsp; 19022-1000&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A href="http://WWW.TRANSUNION.COM/DIRECT" target="_blank"&gt;WWW.TRANSUNION.COM/DIRECT&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;We also obtained your credit score from this consumer reporting agency and used it in making our credit decision. Your credit score is a number that reflects the information in your credit report. Your credit score can change, depending on how the information in your credit report changes.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 9.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; color: #293033;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; color: #293033; background: white;"&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Type of credit score FICO&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 9.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; color: #293033;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; color: #293033; background: white;"&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Your credit score 688&lt;BR /&gt;Date 10/4/2011&lt;BR /&gt;Scores range from a low of 300 to a high of 850&lt;BR /&gt;Key factors that affected your credit score were as follows:&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 9.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; color: #293033;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; color: #293033; background: white;"&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 9.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; color: #293033;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; color: #293033; background: white;"&gt;1) DEROGATORY PUBLIC RECORD OR COLLECTION FILED&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 9.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; color: #293033;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; color: #293033; background: white;"&gt;2) % OF BALANCE TO CREDIT LIMIT TOO HIGH ON REVOLVING ACCOUNTS&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 9.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; color: #293033;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; color: #293033; background: white;"&gt;3) PROPORTION OF LOAN BALANCES TO LOAN AMOUNTS IS TOO HIGH&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 9.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; color: #293033;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; color: #293033; background: white;"&gt;4) LENGTH OF TIME ACCOUNTS HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;This information was provided to us by FICO , a consumer reporting agency.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 9.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; color: #293033;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; color: #293033; background: white;"&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;If you have any questions regarding this letter, you should contact Discover Bank, issuer of the Discover Card, at P.O. Box 15410, Wilmington, DE 19850-5410.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 9.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; color: #293033;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 01:45:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Discover-Denial/m-p/1047990#M293957</guid>
      <dc:creator>Dbadup</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-10-05T01:45:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Discover Denial!!!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Discover-Denial/m-p/1048012#M293962</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/491410"&gt;@Dbadup&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;So I thought I would still be on my lucky train with my Amex approval this week, why not try for a Discover card. Well I got an instant denial and a letter too.Awesome!! &lt;FONT color="#ff0000"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;But why my fico TU score here says 703 and discover is saying 688..??&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;I would suspect (but could be wrong) that Discover used the newer TU04 version while myFICO sells&amp;nbsp;the older TU98 version.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;From a BK years ago to:&lt;BR /&gt;EX - 3/11 pulled by lender- 835, EQ - 2/11-816, TU - 2/11-782&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they've made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem".&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 02:07:29 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Discover-Denial/m-p/1048012#M293962</guid>
      <dc:creator>MarineVietVet</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-10-05T02:07:29Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Discover Denial!!!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Discover-Denial/m-p/1048014#M293963</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;And you say that you recently were approved for AmEx?&amp;nbsp; I hope you don't mind me asking, but which card did you app for, what report did they pull and what was your score?&amp;nbsp; I was under the impression that AmEx primarily pulled Experian, therefore if most of your baddies were on TU then that might explain the denial from Discover.&amp;nbsp; Or did you have the same amount of baddies on both?&amp;nbsp; Were you a prior AmEx customer and if so did they back date you?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 02:09:31 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Discover-Denial/m-p/1048014#M293963</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-10-05T02:09:31Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Discover Denial!!!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Discover-Denial/m-p/1048016#M293964</link>
      <description>Discover used TU, but Amex uses EX, so do you not have that collection on EX? Also, did you use your cards after the Amex approval? Or did any statements cut? Sorry, no luck with Discover....they don't deserve you.....</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 02:10:07 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Discover-Denial/m-p/1048016#M293964</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-10-05T02:10:07Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Discover Denial!!!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Discover-Denial/m-p/1048048#M293971</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I think thats what it is !!!.... MarineVietVet&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 02:37:50 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Discover-Denial/m-p/1048048#M293971</guid>
      <dc:creator>Dbadup</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-10-05T02:37:50Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Discover Denial!!!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Discover-Denial/m-p/1048052#M293972</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Jasimae...I got approved for the Amex Zync..I suspect they pulled the experian same baddies are on both TU and Ex. I am and AU on a Green card.. Amex says to wait until my zync arrives to have it back dated to 1990!!! I cant wait!!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 02:40:16 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Discover-Denial/m-p/1048052#M293972</guid>
      <dc:creator>Dbadup</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-10-05T02:40:16Z</dc:date>
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