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    <title>topic Re: CC Revolving vs. Installment in Credit Cards</title>
    <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/CC-Revolving-vs-Installment/m-p/161874#M50411</link>
    <description>Hi, bewildered, welcome to the forums! You don't sound that bewildered now.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;As the others said, this is a great solution for your scores, as long as you have the self-discipline not to incur new debt. It would be pretty awful a year from now to have the CC balances back up where they are, plus a loan to pay on.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;The one thing to realize if that if you app for any other credit, lenders will know in a New York minute exactly what you have done, and the improved scores won't help a bit. But once that debt gets paid down, you'll be in great shape all around, especially since you'll probably get a lower rate on the loan than you have on the cards. That's good financial sense, to me.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;You've just got to be really, really honest with yourself. &lt;img id="smileywink" class="emoticon emoticon-smileywink" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif" alt="Smiley Wink" title="Smiley Wink" /&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:26:00 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>haulingthescoreup</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-02-23T20:26:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>CC Revolving vs. Installment</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/CC-Revolving-vs-Installment/m-p/161860#M50402</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;would switching all CC debt over to a secured installment loan (debt consolidation through CU) be a huge boost to FICO score or is it looked upon as just moving it around&amp;nbsp; and maybe lower the score further?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:09:44 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/CC-Revolving-vs-Installment/m-p/161860#M50402</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-02-23T20:09:44Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: CC Revolving vs. Installment</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/CC-Revolving-vs-Installment/m-p/161862#M50403</link>
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&lt;DIV&gt;Score wise yes this will help if it reduces your UTL- &lt;/DIV&gt;
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&lt;DIV&gt;Also need to NOT run the cards back up- &lt;/DIV&gt;
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&lt;DIV&gt;I advise people to NOT move debt from unsecured to secured unless they know exacly what they are doing- &lt;/DIV&gt;
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bewildered wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;would switching all CC debt over to a secured installment loan (debt consolidation through CU) be a huge boost to FICO score or is it looked upon as just moving it around&amp;nbsp; and maybe lower the score further?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;
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      <pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:14:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/CC-Revolving-vs-Installment/m-p/161862#M50403</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-02-23T20:14:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: CC Revolving vs. Installment</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/CC-Revolving-vs-Installment/m-p/161870#M50408</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;thanks, believe me I learned my lessen.&amp;nbsp; what did I show for the CC debt?&amp;nbsp; not much, nice vacations and visited nice restaurants....all over rated.&amp;nbsp; now I want to have something of my own, condo/townhouse.&amp;nbsp; scores are good, but the debt is a huge monkey.&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:19:43 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/CC-Revolving-vs-Installment/m-p/161870#M50408</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-02-23T20:19:43Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: CC Revolving vs. Installment</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/CC-Revolving-vs-Installment/m-p/161871#M50409</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;I got a consolidation loan through First Command last year and my scores went up by almost 75 points on every CRA!&amp;nbsp; What you need to do is make sure that you have the discipline to not create new debt.&amp;nbsp; I did the consolidation so that I could make a fresh start and you can look at my sig line to see the results.&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:19:48 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/CC-Revolving-vs-Installment/m-p/161871#M50409</guid>
      <dc:creator>rubaty</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-02-23T20:19:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: CC Revolving vs. Installment</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/CC-Revolving-vs-Installment/m-p/161873#M50410</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;rubaty, you said it, fresh start and&amp;nbsp;now somewhat wiser!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:25:50 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/CC-Revolving-vs-Installment/m-p/161873#M50410</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-02-23T20:25:50Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: CC Revolving vs. Installment</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/CC-Revolving-vs-Installment/m-p/161874#M50411</link>
      <description>Hi, bewildered, welcome to the forums! You don't sound that bewildered now.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;As the others said, this is a great solution for your scores, as long as you have the self-discipline not to incur new debt. It would be pretty awful a year from now to have the CC balances back up where they are, plus a loan to pay on.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;The one thing to realize if that if you app for any other credit, lenders will know in a New York minute exactly what you have done, and the improved scores won't help a bit. But once that debt gets paid down, you'll be in great shape all around, especially since you'll probably get a lower rate on the loan than you have on the cards. That's good financial sense, to me.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;You've just got to be really, really honest with yourself. &lt;img id="smileywink" class="emoticon emoticon-smileywink" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif" alt="Smiley Wink" title="Smiley Wink" /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:26:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/CC-Revolving-vs-Installment/m-p/161874#M50411</guid>
      <dc:creator>haulingthescoreup</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-02-23T20:26:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: CC Revolving vs. Installment</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/CC-Revolving-vs-Installment/m-p/161879#M50414</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;haulingthescoreup wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;The one thing to realize if that if you app for any other credit, lenders will know in a New York minute exactly what you have done, and the improved scores won't help a bit. But once that debt gets paid down, you'll be in great shape all around, especially since you'll probably get a lower rate on the loan than you have on the cards. That's good financial sense, to me.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;You've just got to be really, really honest with yourself. &lt;img id="smileywink" class="emoticon emoticon-smileywink" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif" alt="Smiley Wink" title="Smiley Wink" /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;HTSU...I don't think that the lenders will really know since it shows as an installment acct.&amp;nbsp; The 9 new cards I got gave me a total of $80K in new TL's to put me over $100K.&amp;nbsp; They just want to see good scores and a good payment history.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:33:47 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/CC-Revolving-vs-Installment/m-p/161879#M50414</guid>
      <dc:creator>rubaty</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-02-23T20:33:47Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: CC Revolving vs. Installment</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/CC-Revolving-vs-Installment/m-p/161889#M50419</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;it's been a daunting trip from my beginnings as a bewildered individual...I attempted to do the mortgage thing early last year....that was true bewilderment.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Took a hard look at my situation and became realistic, boy did I.&amp;nbsp; while&amp;nbsp;I was getting by with just "good" scores, I knew they could be way better.&amp;nbsp; Applying for new credit is null, I have 5 revolving accounts, BOA with the highest CL of 19.5k, now they are cleared and they will stay that way.&amp;nbsp; if an emergency arises, I will be able to handle with what I currently have.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;thanks to all for your input, it's encouraging and motivating to keep the course.&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:46:43 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-02-23T20:46:43Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: CC Revolving vs. Installment</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/CC-Revolving-vs-Installment/m-p/161917#M50429</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/80259"&gt;@rubaty&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;   &lt;BR /&gt;HTSU...I don't think that the lenders will really know since it shows as an installment acct.  The 9 new cards I got gave me a total of $80K in new TL's to put me over $100K.  They just want to see good scores and a good payment history.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Thanks, you said that better than I did. What I was trying to say is that the total debt will still be viewable to sharp-eyed lenders. But it's true, since it's over on the installment side, it should raise fewer alarms about debt pyramiding.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;As a new PenFed member who just did a BT, I'm a bit twitchy on the pyramid thing! &lt;img id="smileytongue" class="emoticon emoticon-smileytongue" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif" alt="Smiley Tongue" title="Smiley Tongue" /&gt; &lt;img id="smileyvery-happy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyvery-happy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Very Happy" title="Smiley Very Happy" /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 22:00:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/CC-Revolving-vs-Installment/m-p/161917#M50429</guid>
      <dc:creator>haulingthescoreup</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-02-23T22:00:32Z</dc:date>
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