topic Re: Got 1 of 2, any situations like mine? in Credit Cards

Got 1 of 2, any situations like mine?

ali5541 — Sun, 27 Jan 2013 17:46:13 GMT

Hey everyone!

Like many others, I roam the boards continuously and read up on peoples situations with the CC companies. One situation that hasn't received too much attention is with AMEX.

After finally pulling the trigger in August of last year for the AMEX Zync, I was approved with a counter offer, I took the $500 limit with auto-pay. Two days ago, I pulled the trigger with AMEX again for the BCP and got the dreaded wait notice (I applied over the phone with a rep). I got notification last evening that I was declined. I went to view the reason why and it stated that since I had the AMEX Zync card with a spending limit, I can't get any other AMEX products. I spoke with a customer service rep and she said that the Zync isn't the reason and gave me the number to the AMEX credit bureau and asked me to speak to them on Monday.

I figured I will try the exec office instead. Anyone had this problem before and was able to rectify it? Earlier in the month, I did apply for the Chase Amazon and was approved after recon. Got a sweet limit of 1.5K but it isn't my first Chase CC. I have a 4.5K Freedom. I can shed more light if needed.

Thanks for any tips!

Re: Got 1 of 2, any situations like mine?

chnceit — Sun, 27 Jan 2013 17:55:45 GMT

I did read post on here that AMEX Zync card members with a hard limit have this same problem. If I were you I would apply for another charge card and go that route first and build the relationship from there. The good thing is that AMEX shouldnt have pulled your credit for the BCP. But all cases are different so YMMV.

Re: Got 1 of 2, any situations like mine?

ycm — Sun, 27 Jan 2013 17:58:31 GMT

+1 with emphasis on ymmv

Re: Got 1 of 2, any situations like mine?

shakalaka — Sun, 27 Jan 2013 18:08:28 GMT

From what I have heard, you will not be approved if you have a ZYNC with hard limit. You have to close it first.

Having a ZYNC with NPSL is another picture. Your chances are much better. I was approved for BCE with having a ZYNC NPSL.

Re: Got 1 of 2, any situations like mine?

ali5541 — Sun, 27 Jan 2013 18:20:05 GMT

So wait, I can apply for another charge card while I have the hard limit on the zync card?

Re: Got 1 of 2, any situations like mine?

Anonymous — Sun, 27 Jan 2013 20:58:48 GMT

@ali5541 wrote:
Hey everyone!

Like many others, I roam the boards continuously and read up on peoples situations with the CC companies. One situation that hasn't received too much attention is with AMEX.

After finally pulling the trigger in August of last year for the AMEX Zync, I was approved with a counter offer, I took the $500 limit with auto-pay. Two days ago, I pulled the trigger with AMEX again for the BCP and got the dreaded wait notice (I applied over the phone with a rep). I got notification last evening that I was declined. I went to view the reason why and it stated that since I had the AMEX Zync card with a spending limit, I can't get any other AMEX products. I spoke with a customer service rep and she said that the Zync isn't the reason and gave me the number to the AMEX credit bureau and asked me to speak to them on Monday.

I figured I will try the exec office instead. Anyone had this problem before and was able to rectify it? Earlier in the month, I did apply for the Chase Amazon and was approved after recon. Got a sweet limit of 1.5K but it isn't my first Chase CC. I have a 4.5K Freedom. I can shed more light if needed.

Thanks for any tips!

IMO, you should believe the reason.

Re: Got 1 of 2, any situations like mine?

shakalaka — Sun, 27 Jan 2013 21:17:45 GMT

Nope, I have the NPSL ZYNC. If you have one with hard limit, you most certainly need to cancel it first.

Re: Got 1 of 2, any situations like mine?

creditnocash — Sun, 27 Jan 2013 21:24:24 GMT

i have a hard limit on mine.

i jokingly applied for a bce on new years.

letter said i had a 721 score but i have other factors that got me denied.

no mention of the zync but i had a pretty long list lol. (no bks or any lates/collections)

Re: Got 1 of 2, any situations like mine?

shakalaka — Sun, 27 Jan 2013 21:47:05 GMT

@creditnocash wrote:
i have a hard limit on mine.
i jokingly applied for a bce on new years.
letter said i had a 721 score but i have other factors that got me denied.
no mention of the zync but i had a pretty long list lol. (no bks or any lates/collections)

Interesting. Still I think the internal score with Amexco will take a hit with the hard limit. It is hard to spent a lot of money with having the hard limit. But good luck next time.

Re: Got 1 of 2, any situations like mine?

creditnocash — Sun, 27 Jan 2013 21:51:35 GMT

@shakalaka wrote:
@creditnocash wrote:
i have a hard limit on mine.
i jokingly applied for a bce on new years.
letter said i had a 721 score but i have other factors that got me denied.
no mention of the zync but i had a pretty long list lol. (no bks or any lates/collections)
Interesting. Still I think the internal score with Amexco will take a hit with the hard limit. It is hard to spent a lot of money with having the hard limit. But good luck next time.

is there a place where you can find your internal risk score?

im assuming the credit secure is an internal?

last pull i did on the 15th was 725 across all three reports.

my aaoa was only 8 months so that was one of the factors. oldest account 2.3 years (10 ccs reporting)

Re: Got 1 of 2, any situations like mine?

shakalaka — Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:01:03 GMT

@creditnocash wrote:
@shakalaka wrote:
@creditnocash wrote:
i have a hard limit on mine.
i jokingly applied for a bce on new years.
letter said i had a 721 score but i have other factors that got me denied.
no mention of the zync but i had a pretty long list lol. (no bks or any lates/collections)
Interesting. Still I think the internal score with Amexco will take a hit with the hard limit. It is hard to spent a lot of money with having the hard limit. But good luck next time.
is there a place where you can find your internal risk score?
im assuming the credit secure is an internal?
last pull i did on the 15th was 725 across all three reports.

my aaoa was only 8 months so that was one of the factors. oldest account 2.3 years (10 ccs reporting)

Nope, the internal risk score wth Amexco is never ever published anywhere. We only know, that there may be something like that ...

Re: Got 1 of 2, any situations like mine?

ali5541 — Sun, 27 Jan 2013 23:20:20 GMT

Well, it only means one thing for me. I'll talk to them tomorrow and see what's up. If nothing can be done, I'll close my Zync and test my luck in another two-three months.

Re: Got 1 of 2, any situations like mine?

shakalaka — Sun, 27 Jan 2013 23:28:18 GMT

Good luck, keep us updated please.

Re: Got 1 of 2, any situations like mine?

SnackTrader — Mon, 28 Jan 2013 00:21:56 GMT

@ali5541 wrote:
Hey everyone!

Like many others, I roam the boards continuously and read up on peoples situations with the CC companies. One situation that hasn't received too much attention is with AMEX.

After finally pulling the trigger in August of last year for the AMEX Zync, I was approved with a counter offer, I took the $500 limit with auto-pay. Two days ago, I pulled the trigger with AMEX again for the BCP and got the dreaded wait notice (I applied over the phone with a rep). I got notification last evening that I was declined. I went to view the reason why and it stated that since I had the AMEX Zync card with a spending limit, I can't get any other AMEX products. I spoke with a customer service rep and she said that the Zync isn't the reason and gave me the number to the AMEX credit bureau and asked me to speak to them on Monday.

I figured I will try the exec office instead. Anyone had this problem before and was able to rectify it? Earlier in the month, I did apply for the Chase Amazon and was approved after recon. Got a sweet limit of 1.5K but it isn't my first Chase CC. I have a 4.5K Freedom. I can shed more light if needed.

Thanks for any tips!

Not trying to be a smarta--, but if you search "Zync hard limit" in the search bar on this forum you actually receive pages worth of relevant hits from the last year or two. There were "reports" of individuals getting cards with the hard limit Zync still open, and then still plenty more "reports" of it being impossible based on conversations with certain Amex representatives. So, the truth may never be known, but if you read some of those other posts it may give you an indication of the experiences of other posters.

Re: Got 1 of 2, any situations like mine?

ali5541 — Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:05:16 GMT

I'm sorry SnackTrader, I didn't mean for another "AMEX Zync" topic. I did use the search, I actually use it quite heavliy. I am quite aware that no one can convert from AMEX Zync, but the verdict is out on getting other AMEX products with a Zync hard limit. The topics went back and fourth about people getting other AMEX products with the Zync hard limit. The dates of the posts ranged as well. I just wanted to see if someone recently was in a position like mine and could shed some light. Isn't that the whole reason people come to these boards?

Anyways, feel free to close the topic if you wish. Not like I meant harm.

Re: Got 1 of 2, any situations like mine?

Anonymous — Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:21:12 GMT

Ali, IMHO we can only learn from these discussions so please know that many of us appreciate the information and the questions that you asked. Repetition is actually great! There is a lot to read and sort through and it can be overwhelming. Also, information changes! We all should be encouraged to ask questions and share our experiences. Don't be discouraged...

Re: Got 1 of 2, any situations like mine?

SnackTrader — Mon, 28 Jan 2013 02:50:15 GMT

@ali5541 wrote:
I'm sorry SnackTrader, I didn't mean for another "AMEX Zync" topic. I did use the search, I actually use it quite heavliy. I am quite aware that no one can convert from AMEX Zync, but the verdict is out on getting other AMEX products with a Zync hard limit. The topics went back and fourth about people getting other AMEX products with the Zync hard limit. The dates of the posts ranged as well. I just wanted to see if someone recently was in a position like mine and could shed some light. Isn't that the whole reason people come to these boards?

Anyways, feel free to close the topic if you wish. Not like I meant harm.

I didn't mean to say this wasn't a useful question, and I don't want to discourage you from asking. I was trying to get you more information by offering a search suggestion if you werent familiar with the function, and without posting 20+ links into the thread.

And I agree, the jury is out and I don't think anyone has an exact answer that I have seen. But as I said, there are unverified reports of both approvals and denials with the hard limit Zync. it seems that you already found that.

No offense intended, sorry if it didn't come across well. Truce?

Re: Got 1 of 2, any situations like mine?

Anonymous — Mon, 28 Jan 2013 02:52:42 GMT

This is why I cant stand AMEX, thre just so backwards and top of that there cards are not even the best out there for rewards. Living on a reputation earned long ago but is now rusted with just a coat of fresh paint to make them look pretty. IMO

Re: Got 1 of 2, any situations like mine?

Shogun — Mon, 28 Jan 2013 02:58:03 GMT

I find myself agreeing somewhat with dodgeball. AMEX has this prestige about it, but it does seem to have lost substantial ground. There are other cards that are on par or even surpass their rewards. That's exactly what this board is about.

BTW, thanks for the way in which you are handling yourselves.

Re: Got 1 of 2, any situations like mine?

Revelate — Mon, 28 Jan 2013 02:58:31 GMT

Amex is competitive with the other big 3 in the US market on their revolvers.

Admittedly their charge cards are somewhat dated but their rewards packages there are still better than the majority of lenders.

Hard to say they are living on past glories in my estimation; every lender has their quirks, but on the whole I think Amex is worth doing business with.