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    <title>topic Re: Amex PenFed arrived today and the numbers are Amex in Credit Cards</title>
    <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-PenFed-arrived-today-and-the-numbers-are-Amex/m-p/2018035#M559336</link>
    <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/451006"&gt;@LS2982&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;The OP feels slighted that this card is not a real AMEX........&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG title="" align="middle" alt="" src="http://celebquote.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/tumblr_m4cmiaO4yA1qfis5vo1_500.gif" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Lol LS&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Ps i like the portraiting of the issue.lol&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 02 Apr 2013 01:36:16 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2013-04-02T01:36:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Amex PenFed arrived today and the numbers are Amex</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-PenFed-arrived-today-and-the-numbers-are-Amex/m-p/2017543#M559162</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;The card is very identical to the real amex cards&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I don't really see any difference&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2013 23:31:41 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-04-01T23:31:41Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Amex PenFed arrived today and the numbers are Amex</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-PenFed-arrived-today-and-the-numbers-are-Amex/m-p/2017559#M559170</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;The card is very identical to the real amex cards&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I don't really see any difference&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;It works on the Amex network, and so has an Amex form number.&amp;nbsp; First 6 digits of credit cards identify the issuer, and network, (4 for Visa, 5 for MC, and various ranges of 3X and 6X for Amex, Discover and Diners Card).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;But it isn't issued by Amex and doesn't have their services.&amp;nbsp; Penfeds may be better/worse/equivalent, but it isn't an Amex.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2013 23:37:09 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-04-01T23:37:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Amex PenFed arrived today and the numbers are Amex</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-PenFed-arrived-today-and-the-numbers-are-Amex/m-p/2017571#M559175</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;For those with too much time on their hands, you can check your card numbers here.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Issuer_Identification_Numbers" target="_blank"&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Issuer_Identification_Numbers&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2013 23:39:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-PenFed-arrived-today-and-the-numbers-are-Amex/m-p/2017571#M559175</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-04-01T23:39:03Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Amex PenFed arrived today and the numbers are Amex</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-PenFed-arrived-today-and-the-numbers-are-Amex/m-p/2017577#M559177</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;How come is not&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The numbers are Amex&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The logo is Amex&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It uses same network Amex uses&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The only difference is the underwriters which at Amex they need Tax returns and at PendFed they don't&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2013 23:42:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-PenFed-arrived-today-and-the-numbers-are-Amex/m-p/2017577#M559177</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-04-01T23:42:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Amex PenFed arrived today and the numbers are Amex</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-PenFed-arrived-today-and-the-numbers-are-Amex/m-p/2017601#M559186</link>
      <description>Turn the card over...it should say issued by PenFed or something close.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2013 23:52:06 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-PenFed-arrived-today-and-the-numbers-are-Amex/m-p/2017601#M559186</guid>
      <dc:creator>09Lexie</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-04-01T23:52:06Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Amex PenFed arrived today and the numbers are Amex</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-PenFed-arrived-today-and-the-numbers-are-Amex/m-p/2017603#M559187</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;And the same is true of say a Capital One Visa and a Chase Visa and a Citi Visa.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The issuing bank has control of the policies, rewards etc.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You could not get your Penfed Amex backdated if you have an earlier Amex, and if you get a "real" Amex later on, it can't be backdated to the date you got this.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The rewards are not MR etc.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The "transport" network is the least important part of the card.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2013 23:52:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-PenFed-arrived-today-and-the-numbers-are-Amex/m-p/2017603#M559187</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-04-01T23:52:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Amex PenFed arrived today and the numbers are Amex</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-PenFed-arrived-today-and-the-numbers-are-Amex/m-p/2017627#M559197</link>
      <description>It's not a real Amex because it was issued by Pended and just happens to have the Amex logo on it and uses the Amex network. Penfed is the one paying the merchants, not Amex. Therefore, it's not a real Amex, just a faux Amex.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2013 23:56:42 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>thelethargicage</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-04-01T23:56:42Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Amex PenFed arrived today and the numbers are Amex</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-PenFed-arrived-today-and-the-numbers-are-Amex/m-p/2017639#M559202</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;The OP feels slighted that this card is not a real AMEX........&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG title="" align="middle" alt="" src="http://celebquote.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/tumblr_m4cmiaO4yA1qfis5vo1_500.gif" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2013 23:59:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-PenFed-arrived-today-and-the-numbers-are-Amex/m-p/2017639#M559202</guid>
      <dc:creator>LS2982</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-04-01T23:59:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Amex PenFed arrived today and the numbers are Amex</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-PenFed-arrived-today-and-the-numbers-are-Amex/m-p/2017659#M559209</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/623320"&gt;@thelethargicage&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;It's not a real Amex because it was issued by Pended and just happens to have the Amex logo on it and uses the Amex network. Penfed is the one paying the merchants, not Amex. Therefore, it's not a real Amex, just a faux Amex.&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I wouldn't say it's not a real American Express card, because it is. It just is not issued by Centurion bank. A lot of people seemed to be confused by this, and with Discover as well.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Apr 2013 00:03:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-PenFed-arrived-today-and-the-numbers-are-Amex/m-p/2017659#M559209</guid>
      <dc:creator>navigatethis12</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-04-02T00:03:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Amex PenFed arrived today and the numbers are Amex</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-PenFed-arrived-today-and-the-numbers-are-Amex/m-p/2017947#M559303</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;IMHO you should be happy. &amp;nbsp;Pendfed is harder to get approved for than Amex. &amp;nbsp;That said, you don't have a real Amex. &amp;nbsp;You have a Penfed card that runs on the Amex network. &amp;nbsp;No different than a Penfed card that runs on the Visa network.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Apr 2013 01:18:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-PenFed-arrived-today-and-the-numbers-are-Amex/m-p/2017947#M559303</guid>
      <dc:creator>boomhower</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-04-02T01:18:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Amex PenFed arrived today and the numbers are Amex</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-PenFed-arrived-today-and-the-numbers-are-Amex/m-p/2018035#M559336</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/451006"&gt;@LS2982&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;The OP feels slighted that this card is not a real AMEX........&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG title="" align="middle" alt="" src="http://celebquote.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/tumblr_m4cmiaO4yA1qfis5vo1_500.gif" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Lol LS&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Ps i like the portraiting of the issue.lol&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Apr 2013 01:36:16 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-PenFed-arrived-today-and-the-numbers-are-Amex/m-p/2018035#M559336</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-04-02T01:36:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Amex PenFed arrived today and the numbers are Amex</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-PenFed-arrived-today-and-the-numbers-are-Amex/m-p/2018897#M559630</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/504698"&gt;@boomhower&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;IMHO you should be happy. &amp;nbsp;Pendfed is harder to get approved for than Amex. &amp;nbsp;That said, you don't have a real Amex. &amp;nbsp;You have a Penfed card that runs on the Amex network. &amp;nbsp;No different than a Penfed card that runs on the Visa network.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;+1, &amp;nbsp;and they don't pull that FR crap that a real AMEX does!!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My dislike for AMEX even has me not using my Dillard's AMEX, why do I want to send them their swipe fee. lol&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Apr 2013 04:31:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-PenFed-arrived-today-and-the-numbers-are-Amex/m-p/2018897#M559630</guid>
      <dc:creator>ilovelisa</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-04-02T04:31:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Amex PenFed arrived today and the numbers are Amex</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-PenFed-arrived-today-and-the-numbers-are-Amex/m-p/2018903#M559633</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/646924"&gt;@ilovelisa&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My dislike for AMEX even has me not using my Dillard's AMEX, why do I want to send them their swipe fee. lol&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;That's a lot of dislike going on there!&amp;nbsp; &lt;img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Apr 2013 04:33:52 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Open123</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-04-02T04:33:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Amex PenFed arrived today and the numbers are Amex</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-PenFed-arrived-today-and-the-numbers-are-Amex/m-p/2018909#M559635</link>
      <description>Mmhmm, that's what I was thinking!</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Apr 2013 04:36:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-PenFed-arrived-today-and-the-numbers-are-Amex/m-p/2018909#M559635</guid>
      <dc:creator>09Lexie</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-04-02T04:36:23Z</dc:date>
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