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    <title>topic Re: Wells Fargo or Bank of Am in Credit Cards</title>
    <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Wells-Fargo-or-Bank-of-Am/m-p/2249917#M630403</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Ive seen BofA cardholders with successful secured cards graduating stories, i say bofa&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2013 01:53:28 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>BearsAndTurtlesRtheBest</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2013-06-27T01:53:28Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Wells Fargo or Bank of Am</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Wells-Fargo-or-Bank-of-Am/m-p/2249901#M630398</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Which bank has the best secured card......WF or BoA?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2013 01:47:38 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>doc101</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-06-27T01:47:38Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Wells Fargo or Bank of Am</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Wells-Fargo-or-Bank-of-Am/m-p/2249917#M630403</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Ive seen BofA cardholders with successful secured cards graduating stories, i say bofa&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2013 01:53:28 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Wells-Fargo-or-Bank-of-Am/m-p/2249917#M630403</guid>
      <dc:creator>BearsAndTurtlesRtheBest</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-06-27T01:53:28Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Wells Fargo or Bank of Am</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Wells-Fargo-or-Bank-of-Am/m-p/2249997#M630418</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;IMHO&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;BofA by far is a better product&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2013 02:24:27 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>myjourney</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-06-27T02:24:27Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Wells Fargo or Bank of Am</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Wells-Fargo-or-Bank-of-Am/m-p/2250029#M630430</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/667905"&gt;@myjourney&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;IMHO&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;BofA by far is a better product&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;+1&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In my view, BofA has the best secured card.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Problem with Wells is (1) the uncertainty regarding when and if it graduates, (2) and even if it were to graduate, they lack the options offered by BofA.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2013 02:38:23 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Open123</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-06-27T02:38:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Wells Fargo or Bank of Am</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Wells-Fargo-or-Bank-of-Am/m-p/2250363#M630554</link>
      <description>Better check SDFCU they have way better secured card 6.9 and they report it all 3 CB.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2013 05:12:59 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Wells-Fargo-or-Bank-of-Am/m-p/2250363#M630554</guid>
      <dc:creator>kampfer09</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-06-27T05:12:59Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Wells Fargo or Bank of Am</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Wells-Fargo-or-Bank-of-Am/m-p/2250389#M630562</link>
      <description>I agree with kampfer about SDFCU- it will not graduate however.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2013 05:27:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Wells-Fargo-or-Bank-of-Am/m-p/2250389#M630562</guid>
      <dc:creator>09Lexie</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-06-27T05:27:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Wells Fargo or Bank of Am</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Wells-Fargo-or-Bank-of-Am/m-p/2250425#M630576</link>
      <description>You can always ask them if they can upgrade it to unsecured card. I have done it in the beginning after having the card for a year and boom they gave it to me.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2013 05:52:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Wells-Fargo-or-Bank-of-Am/m-p/2250425#M630576</guid>
      <dc:creator>kampfer09</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-06-27T05:52:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Wells Fargo or Bank of Am</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Wells-Fargo-or-Bank-of-Am/m-p/2250569#M630627</link>
      <description>Good to know!</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2013 08:52:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Wells-Fargo-or-Bank-of-Am/m-p/2250569#M630627</guid>
      <dc:creator>09Lexie</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-06-27T08:52:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Wells Fargo or Bank of Am</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Wells-Fargo-or-Bank-of-Am/m-p/2252379#M631139</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Can anyone apply for the card from SDFCU?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2013 23:37:21 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Wells-Fargo-or-Bank-of-Am/m-p/2252379#M631139</guid>
      <dc:creator>doc101</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-06-27T23:37:21Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Wells Fargo or Bank of Am</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Wells-Fargo-or-Bank-of-Am/m-p/2252417#M631150</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/526050"&gt;@doc101&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Can anyone apply for the card from SDFCU?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Don't bother with them. Tryin to even get membership is like tryin to jump through hoopes on fire from a 30,000 foot skydive. They want your whole life story before &amp;nbsp;they approve you. I got an email from them last week asking for the following&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Copy of drivers license&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;copy of social security card&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;copy of permament resident card or passport&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;copy of recent utility bill in your name&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;copy of mortgage or rental lease&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Than they pull your credit score and report and make the determination if they will approve your membership. I eventually told them forget it. They said they take verification very seriously so if i could not send them the info, than i was more than welcome to walk into a branch (they only have them in the great DC area) and talk to a banker.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You are better off with BOA because WF may deny it. You can also look at US BANK secured cards. They do offer rewards for their members and discounts on rental cards and their cards unsecure in as little as 12 months. I had one back in 2001 that unsecured after 9 months.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2013 23:56:07 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Wells-Fargo-or-Bank-of-Am/m-p/2252417#M631150</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-06-27T23:56:07Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Wells Fargo or Bank of Am</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Wells-Fargo-or-Bank-of-Am/m-p/2252443#M631162</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks&amp;nbsp; for the info. Since I already bank with WF, I may try them first. Then again, I may try BoA&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2013 00:00:56 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>doc101</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-06-28T00:00:56Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Wells Fargo or Bank of Am</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Wells-Fargo-or-Bank-of-Am/m-p/2252793#M631271</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/526050"&gt;@doc101&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks&amp;nbsp; for the info. Since I already bank with WF, I may try them first. Then again, I may try BoA&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have a Wells Fargo credit card (and I have a checking account with them). I've had nothing but good service from them. Treat Wells Fargo good and they'll extend the same courtesy.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2013 02:08:56 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Wells-Fargo-or-Bank-of-Am/m-p/2252793#M631271</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-06-28T02:08:56Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Wells Fargo or Bank of Am</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Wells-Fargo-or-Bank-of-Am/m-p/2253171#M631384</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/526050"&gt;@doc101&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Can anyone apply for the card from SDFCU?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Don't bother with them. Tryin to even get membership is like tryin to jump through hoopes on fire from a 30,000 foot skydive. They want your whole life story before &amp;nbsp;they approve you. I got an email from them last week asking for the following&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Copy of drivers license&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;copy of social security card&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;copy of permament resident card or passport&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;copy of recent utility bill in your name&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;copy of mortgage or rental lease&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Than they pull your credit score and report and make the determination if they will approve your membership. I eventually told them forget it. They said they take verification very seriously so if i could not send them the info, than i was more than welcome to walk into a branch (they only have them in the great DC area) and talk to a banker.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You are better off with BOA because WF may deny it. You can also look at US BANK secured cards. They do offer rewards for their members and discounts on rental cards and their cards unsecure in as little as 12 months. I had one back in 2001 that unsecured after 9 months.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;This wasn't my experience with SDFCU at all for membership nor their secured card application.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Regardless, BOFA is the best secured card nearly hands down, with the exception if you need non-trivial forex purchases in which case SDFCU is better (3% on BOFA's card is harsh). &amp;nbsp;For reference, BOFA's secured card with the exception of the AF is effectively equivalent to an Amex BCE, and obtainable somewhere 120 or more FICO points below from an underwriting perspective.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Really for establishing positive payment history, one should acquire two (or maybe 3, debatable) cards anyway. &amp;nbsp;If I had to do it all over again, I would've gone BOFA secured, SDFCU secured, and ignored everything else until I was able to pull a trigger for my eventual Amex charge card and Chase Freedom (relationship) and subsequently stepping into a backdated Amex revolver for limit chasing.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Plenty of paths though, and with good habits they all lead to where we want to go eventually, really when establishing positive history *any* secured card which reports is ideal. &amp;nbsp;Optimal rewards or credit report reindeer games can be pursued later.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2013 05:01:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Wells-Fargo-or-Bank-of-Am/m-p/2253171#M631384</guid>
      <dc:creator>Revelate</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-06-28T05:01:03Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Wells Fargo or Bank of Am</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Wells-Fargo-or-Bank-of-Am/m-p/2253181#M631388</link>
      <description>I used to have Wells Fargo checking. I just finish paid auto loan with them never late. They won't give me a CC. They offered secured. I lol and move my business to chase and the rest is history.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2013 05:03:41 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>armbenderc</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-06-28T05:03:41Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Wells Fargo or Bank of Am</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Wells-Fargo-or-Bank-of-Am/m-p/2253203#M631398</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;+1000 Wells Fargo is insane! They denied me offered a secure card, which ive banked with them for a while.. my thought, they access my direct deposited funds before i do lol.. But, now BofA whom i have no checking, no savings, and no IRA with, extends their gracious hand out and call me and say "come my son here is 7k line of credit on our signature card." Hope this helps your view. I will be switching banks soon i do believe.. Why stay at a bank that doesnt work with own customers...&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2013 05:15:59 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>mcf</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-06-28T05:15:59Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Wells Fargo or Bank of Am</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Wells-Fargo-or-Bank-of-Am/m-p/2253209#M631400</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/676515"&gt;@mcf&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;+1000 Wells Fargo is insane! They denied me offered a secure card, which ive banked with them for a while.. my thought, they access my direct deposited funds before i do lol.. But, now BofA whom i have no checking, no savings, and no IRA with, extends their gracious hand out and call me and say "come my son here is 7k line of credit on our signature card." Hope this helps your view. I will be switching banks soon i do believe.. Why stay at a bank that doesnt work with own customers...&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Sadly WF focuses on their mortgage business and much of the rest of their portfolio is an afterthought. &amp;nbsp;Wells cards are utterly bland and nothing to write home about, and personally I think anyone armed with information found on this forum should really look other options than WF for cards. &amp;nbsp;As far as checking accounts go I've not heard any complaints from my associates that use them, and for business checking I think they're near the top from what little I've heard, but for cards, go elsewhere is my recommendation.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2013 05:19:10 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Revelate</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-06-28T05:19:10Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Wells Fargo or Bank of Am</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Wells-Fargo-or-Bank-of-Am/m-p/2253341#M631437</link>
      <description>Personally I like Wells Fargo a lot. Service has been really good and any problems I had were resolved easily and quickly, including problems with CRAs.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;That being said, their credit cards are indeed lackluster. I would recommend people to apply for them only if they already happen to have a banking relationship with Wells Fargo and are trying to establish their credit.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;However, for people who are trying to RE-build or are interested in getting their secured cards, I definitely do not recommend it at all. Wells Fargo isn't an ideal bank for one to rebuild credit with. They are extremely conservative, to the extent it may seem to be paranoid or just fussy. They do not seem to be as willing to graduate people to unsecured, and they are very tough on approvals as well. If you can get approved for a Wells Fargo unsecured, you probably will have no issues getting approved for the lower to mid tier chase or citi cards as well.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2013 07:14:24 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-06-28T07:14:24Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Wells Fargo or Bank of Am</title>
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      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/534281"&gt;@Revelate&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/526050"&gt;@doc101&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Can anyone apply for the card from SDFCU?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Don't bother with them. Tryin to even get membership is like tryin to jump through hoopes on fire from a 30,000 foot skydive. They want your whole life story before &amp;nbsp;they approve you. I got an email from them last week asking for the following&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Copy of drivers license&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;copy of social security card&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;copy of permament resident card or passport&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;copy of recent utility bill in your name&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;copy of mortgage or rental lease&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Than they pull your credit score and report and make the determination if they will approve your membership. I eventually told them forget it. They said they take verification very seriously so if i could not send them the info, than i was more than welcome to walk into a branch (they only have them in the great DC area) and talk to a banker.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You are better off with BOA because WF may deny it. You can also look at US BANK secured cards. They do offer rewards for their members and discounts on rental cards and their cards unsecure in as little as 12 months. I had one back in 2001 that unsecured after 9 months.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;This wasn't my experience with SDFCU at all for membership nor their secured card application.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Regardless, BOFA is the best secured card nearly hands down, with the exception if you need non-trivial forex purchases&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Whats a non trivial forex purchase?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2013 12:43:57 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-06-28T12:43:57Z</dc:date>
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