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Wildly different FICO scores

Anonymous — Thu, 01 Aug 2013 04:16:40 GMT

I paid for all three of my FICO scores yesterday because it's been a while since I've checked. EX: 573; EQ: 563; TU: 664

EQ and TU are more than 100 points apart! After some investigation I realized that an old American Eagle card that my mom had me open almost a decade ago that I've never had a balance on has drastically affected my TU score by adding both seven years of history and a $500 CL to my credit history that are not being reported to the other bureaus. Additionally, my auto loan that I took out over two years ago only reports to Equifax (my lowest score despite the age of the account and that I've never missed a payment or paid late).

I have a Cap One card that I was approved for three or four years ago with a $500 CL. I maxed the card out and unfortunately had 120+ days late payments that caused my account to become restricted. I paid the card off and though it remains restricted, it reports to all three bureaus as an open account with a $500 CL.

I got a preapproved mail offer for Merrick Bank seven or eight months ago and decided to apply. I was approved with a $700 CL. I've been responsible with the card, usually paying my balance in full every month however right now my utilization is higher than normal but certainly not maxed out. I want to apply for another credit card but I think it's going to be a gamble considering two of my scores are pretty bad and my TU score is just recently average. I have my eye on the Barclays Rewards card for average credit as I've read that Barclays consistently pulls TU and if I stand a chance at getting a card that isn't secured or a rebuilder, it's going to be with a TU pull. The only stipulation really is that before I received my Merrick Bank offer in the mail, I applied for the Barclays Apple financing credit card and was denied. I called the back door number like everyone suggested but was denied still due to the fact that though I had paid my Cap One card off by then, the 120+ days late payments were still an open wound on my credit report. So I feel like I might be on their radar.

Do you think applying for this card is a good idea? It's been about a year or a little less since I applied for the Barclays Apple card. I have zero debt, I make my auto loan payments on time every month, I have no late payments on my only current credit card, I have a decent income, and I'm pretty focused now on improving my credit because I'm 26 years old and considering the next five to ten years is likely my window of opportunity for buying my first home, etc., I don't want to do more harm than good as fixing credit-related mistakes seems to be no overnight fix. Any insight on now I should navigate the issue of improving my credit with two bad scores and one barely-decent one?

Re: Wildly different FICO scores

Anonymous — Thu, 01 Aug 2013 04:20:08 GMT

It's been a year since you were late on Cap 1?

Re: Wildly different FICO scores

Anonymous — Thu, 01 Aug 2013 04:22:30 GMT

Yep, it's been over a year since I paid the Cap One card off.

Re: Wildly different FICO scores

Anonymous — Thu, 01 Aug 2013 04:27:12 GMT

If its been a year and your util is low, You could give it a try. Barclays does recon.

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tcbofade — Thu, 01 Aug 2013 04:28:20 GMT

If building your score is the goal, I agree with your TU only focus, but wouldn't go near Barclays for a while yet.

How do you feel about Walmart? Free TU08 score with paperless billing, and the credit limit can grow very quickly...they are TU pullers as well...

Re: Wildly different FICO scores

djc1puno — Thu, 01 Aug 2013 04:29:10 GMT

Your tu isnt bad...just like lexie asked, how recent is you lates? And i agree hitting up a cc that pulls tu is best...but depends also on whats on your tu reports...keep in mind also that merrick offers free tu 08 score if you do paperless statement...ge cards such as walmart or paypal might be an option...but you have to bring your util down before apping...also work on fixing your other 2 crs...gl!

Re: Wildly different FICO scores

Anonymous — Thu, 01 Aug 2013 04:46:46 GMT

My TU report contains my oldest account history and my most recent account history. The only account it doesn't reflect is my only installment loan (car) which seems to be the largest factor contributing to my low EQ score for whatever mysterious reason. I will definitely look in to Wal-Mart/Paypal cards if they're TU pullers.

It may also be worth mentioning that when I called Barclays recon and was denied, they did tell me that I should re-apply in a year or so after my old Cap One mega-late payments had some time to drown in new better habits. It's been about a year. Maybe I should do some digging to figure out exactly when I made that call and it may be worth it to wait and apply for Barclays again. A rewards card would be nice and make the process of establishing better credit seem less painful.

Re: Wildly different FICO scores

Anonymous — Thu, 01 Aug 2013 04:55:11 GMT

GE offers a PayPal MC, rewards are meh but the CLI are SP's and grow

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mongstradamus — Thu, 01 Aug 2013 04:59:28 GMT

Good luck with Walmart/discover ,I don't want to be an Debbie downer but Walmart doesn't pull same tu fico as one you get here. I learned that hard way.my myfico tu and Walmart tu differ by over 100 points .

Re: Wildly different FICO scores

Anonymous — Thu, 01 Aug 2013 05:02:15 GMT

Good point.

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djc1puno — Thu, 01 Aug 2013 05:03:43 GMT

Yes wally world does use their own brew...but imho its closer to the tu 08...which op can get thru merrick

Re: Wildly different FICO scores

Anonymous — Thu, 01 Aug 2013 05:10:03 GMT

Whoah! That's good to know and thanks for the heads up. My Merrick Bank account gives me access to what they call a go score (mine is 629 though none of my actual FICO scores nor the average of all my scores is equal to 629) which they state is the FICO 8 bankcard score which... ??? I've never heard of yet it's the number they use to "manage my account"-- so clearly there's stuff I don't know. But I do know that older accounts with CL's affecting my reported utilization are only reflected on my TU report so regardless, it's gotta look better.

Re: Wildly different FICO scores

Anonymous — Thu, 01 Aug 2013 05:13:23 GMT

I'd get the util down on Merrick, let it update and then see if their CS pushes you to at least 640.

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djc1puno — Thu, 01 Aug 2013 05:15:09 GMT

Tu 08 is also what wally world offers for free tho they may differ slightly

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djc1puno — Thu, 01 Aug 2013 05:17:14 GMT

The tu 08 range is different from the tu fico found here...they ate both ficos but just use a different scoring algorithm

Re: Wildly different FICO scores

mongstradamus — Thu, 01 Aug 2013 05:28:47 GMT

Yes I got quite the shock when I got my Walmart tu score, looks like there is still much work that needs to be done to fix my credit sadly.

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Steelersboy — Thu, 01 Aug 2013 11:57:54 GMT

good to know this as I got the Walmart Discover mainly to get the free FICO