topic Re: Think I should call up? in Credit Cards

Think I should call up?

Anonymous — Wed, 21 May 2008 14:38:03 GMT

I joined Pedfed earlier today and was declined for their Visa Platinum Cash Rewards card. I asked for 10k, which may of been too high.

My current EQ score is 697, 3 inq's, no baddies, oldest account is over 4 years with an average of 2. My newest account is a BofA CC that was opened 10 months ago.

Their reasons for the decline are:

AMOUNT OWED ON ACCOUNTS
LENGTH OF TIME ACCTS ESTABLISHED
PROPORTION OF BAL-TO-LIMIT TOO HIGH

I pulled my report after to make sure they pulled EQ, which they did, and found it odd that myFico tells me my bal-to-limit is good.

Currently I have 5 active accounts and only one carries a balance. My total debt to credit ratio is just over 40%. (The one account with a balance is a revolving loan that I got over 12 months ago - the util is HIGH still (90%).

The details are...

BofA AMEX card: .......... 5000 CL, 0 balance
BofA revolving loan: ..... 10000 CL, 9100 balance
Paypal buyer credit: ..... 1100 CL, 0 balance
HSBC CC: ................. 900 CL, 0 balance
WAMU CC: ................. 4530 CL, 0 balance

Should I bother calling them up and asking for a manual review? I assume the report they pulled is still active for atleast another 60 days..

Should I also try re-applying online for a lower limit OR different card?

Any help would be appreciated... thanks!

Re: Think I should call up?

Creditaddict — Wed, 21 May 2008 15:03:13 GMT

I would call and talk to someone, doesn't look like you have to much debt at all.

Re: Think I should call up?

Anonymous — Wed, 21 May 2008 20:32:24 GMT

I called up and they had me fax in a reconsideration letter. I told them I wanted the card to transfer a balance and they seemed a lot more willing to help me. Hopefully they give me a shot.... paying a 2.9% fixed APR is a lot better than my 15.49% variable on the BofA loan.

It was disturbing when the girl told me my EQ score was only 640. I understand there's a variance to the FICO score for credit cards but wow. My WAMU TU score just updated today and that's 701. *shrugs*

My actual FICO scores are: 709TU, 697EQ and 686EX.

Re: Think I should call up?

marty56 — Wed, 21 May 2008 23:06:54 GMT

Unless I did the math wrong, your total util is 42% and your BofA loan is at 91% which they probably see as maxed out.

As a side note my payment history is marked as "good" but I have a major (120 day late not quite 3 yaers old) derog on my CR. Someone who did a MR on my report might not like that. It didnt stop me from getting a Visa card last November but we will see about an auto loan.

Message Edited by marty56 on 05-21-2008 04:06 PM

Re: Think I should call up?

Anonymous — Wed, 21 May 2008 20:46:26 GMT

Yea I understand those tips provided by myFico aren't too accurate but from what I read it's good to have your total util under 35% (9% ideal). I'm not too far off.

Re: Think I should call up?

Anonymous — Wed, 21 May 2008 22:04:00 GMT

Hello all,

I have PenFed on my list of cards to apply for between 11/08 and 4/09. So I am gathering as much info as I can. Souper wrote:

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It was disturbing when the girl told me my EQ score was only 640. I understand there's a variance to the FICO score for credit cards but wow. My WAMU TU score just updated today and that's 701. *shrugs*
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Does PenFed use a different scoring model than Fico or Pfico? I ask because of the big difference it your score and the one they quoted you. If you do call them, can you please inquiry. Does anyone already know? Thanks guys.

Re: Think I should call up?

haulingthescoreup — Wed, 21 May 2008 22:37:56 GMT

Since that BofA loan is a revolving line of credit, it's acting like a maxed-out credit card. Even if your overall util is "only" 42%, that 91% is going to look pretty ugly.

PenFed is very suspicious of people who get new credit, making their util look lower, but they never significantly pay down their total debt. They call this "pyramiding debt."

Where did you pull your 697 EQ score? (myFICO, TrueCredit, FreeCreditReport.com, etc.)

Re: Think I should call up?

Anonymous — Wed, 21 May 2008 22:58:05 GMT

myFico reports 697 and that was this morning when I pulled it.... truecredit is 700+ (like it matters)

When I spoke to Penfed they told me they use their own scoring module.... I assume it's similar to the TU score you get from your Wamu/providian account.

Message Edited by souper on 05-21-2008 06:58 PM

Re: Think I should call up?

Cprman — Wed, 21 May 2008 22:57:13 GMT

Penfed really wants to see low util, which is ironic since they are advertising with a great BT offer of 2.9%. Ive seen lots of peeps with good scores getting rejected for high util. High util and high inqs scares them away.

Re: Think I should call up?

haulingthescoreup — Wed, 21 May 2008 23:46:37 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:
myFico reports 697 and that was this morning when I pulled it.... truecredit is 700+ (like it matters)

When I spoke to Penfed they told me they use their own scoring module.... I assume it's similar to the TU score you get from your Wamu/providian account.

Interesting! I wonder if they're another lender that uses a credit-card enhanced score, like you said, or if it's purely an internally crunched number. Thanks, and sorry to hear about the rude shock that you got.

Re: Think I should call up?

Anonymous — Thu, 22 May 2008 00:23:53 GMT

haha yea... I was a bit disappointed. Oh well... i'll reply tomorrow and let ya'll know how the reconsideration goes. Thanks all for the help!

Re: Think I should call up?

Anonymous — Sat, 24 May 2008 13:05:29 GMT

almost 72 hours since I faxed in the recon letter..... still says pending. blah

I called up yesterday and was told it's still in the reviewers hands and that I should call back later on in the day.

Re: Think I should call up?

Anonymous — Mon, 26 May 2008 03:53:02 GMT

Well good luck to you in your recon!

Re: Think I should call up?

Anonymous — Mon, 26 May 2008 04:42:24 GMT

Thanks!

I just went on an application spree and got 5 out of the 7 cards I applied for.

They are:

CITI PLATINUM VISA ~ 2000 CL
AMEX BLUE ~ 2000 CL
DISCOVER MORE ~ 2000
JUNIPER VISA ~ 2000 CL
CHASE FLEXIBLE REWARDS PLATINUM VISA ~ 1700 CL

(all 2000 limits.... I wanted higher)

Should I request a CLI for any of these cars upon activation, or should I wait a few months first?

Re: Think I should call up?

jmbfl — Mon, 26 May 2008 04:48:45 GMT

PedFed does not like app sprees at all!

Re: Think I should call up?

Anonymous — Mon, 26 May 2008 04:52:12 GMT

I know, that's why I waited until after I applied for Penfed

90% of the pulls from this spree were on EX anyway, so even if Penfed were to re-pull my report, it wouldn't matter.

I'm also going to apply for the NASA and JFCU cards... then i'm done completely.