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    <title>topic Re: Help me stay in the Garden... (Diners Club related) in Credit Cards</title>
    <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Help-me-stay-in-the-Garden-Diners-Club-related/m-p/3619515#M991464</link>
    <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/639972"&gt;@lg8302ch&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/744937"&gt;@dilettante&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;IMO, this card is attracting a lot of attention from varous groups of people seeking some or all of these features:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1. UW standards are not that high - scores as low as upper 600's are being approved&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2. Generous CL's - which is great for builders/rebuilders, MS'ers, or high limit enthusiasts trying to collect as much CL as possible&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;3. Usually pulls TU - (though some have been double pulled w/ EX). Helps most save EX pulls for Amex or Citi, etc.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;4. Not Inq sensitive&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;5. Possibility of hidden TL - though CSR's have been stating that it will report&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;6. First time in awhile that it's open to consumers - there are those that are feeling nostalgic&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;7. Travel perks - lounge access for as low as $95 AF, Primary CDW, hotel collections, trip insurance&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;8. Chip &amp;amp; Pin Priority w/ No FTF - don't have to sign up for CU's or have military/government affiliations&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;9. Airline &amp;amp; Hotel Partners - Alaska, Hawaiian, DL, BA, WN (with the possibility that points transferred count toward Companion Pass), Hilton, and SPG being the big draw&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;10.3X on grocery, gas, and drugstore categories for the Elite version and it is uncapped (for now) - we'll have to see what happens when MS'ers get rolling.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I got this card for the last 3 on this list.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This could well be another "Duck Card Fiasco" since BMO Harris doesn't seem prepared for the onslaught of credit enthusiasts. &amp;nbsp;The app process has been inconsistent and I'm sure a nightmare for them as well as some applicants (lost applications, long processing times for some, some receiving their cards by mail and others getting it overnighted). &amp;nbsp; The online site for cardmembers is archaic and they &lt;STRONG&gt;don't even have online payment abilities&lt;/STRONG&gt; or reward tracking set up yet. &amp;nbsp;Whatever ends up happening, it has been a fun rollercoaster ride for many.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;How do&amp;nbsp; you pay?&amp;nbsp; Send in paper checks? ...oh no.. I have not written checks in decades &lt;img id="smileysurprised" class="emoticon emoticon-smileysurprised" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif" alt="Smiley Surprised" title="Smiley Surprised" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Their online payment feature just went live a few days ago.&amp;nbsp; Of course, before that was available, anyone was able to push a payment through their bank.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2014 07:16:34 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>FinStar</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2014-11-11T07:16:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Help me stay in the Garden... (Diners Club related)</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Help-me-stay-in-the-Garden-Diners-Club-related/m-p/3595787#M987171</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I just went into the Garden a few days ago but I'm having a hard time convincing myself not to apply for&amp;nbsp;Diner's Club...&amp;nbsp;The one thing that keeps me from doing it is that I cannot justify the AF. I have a feeling I'm going to come across another success story and just say F-it and apply.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Where's my support group!?&amp;nbsp;&lt;img id="smileyvery-happy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyvery-happy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Very Happy" title="Smiley Very Happy" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 03:10:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Help-me-stay-in-the-Garden-Diners-Club-related/m-p/3595787#M987171</guid>
      <dc:creator>-Cal-</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-11-04T03:10:03Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Help me stay in the Garden... (Diners Club related)</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Help-me-stay-in-the-Garden-Diners-Club-related/m-p/3595885#M987180</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;With the cards you already have what does Diners offer you? &amp;nbsp;Plant some corn&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 03:24:18 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Help-me-stay-in-the-Garden-Diners-Club-related/m-p/3595885#M987180</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-11-04T03:24:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Help me stay in the Garden... (Diners Club related)</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Help-me-stay-in-the-Garden-Diners-Club-related/m-p/3595895#M987181</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;but... but.... look at how purdy the card is, with the emv chip and all, ya know... the whole real chip &amp;amp; pin card. just one more app wouldn't kill you. make this your last app of 2014! go out with a bang!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG alt="" width="162" border="0" src="https://www.dinersclubus.com/us/images/en/detailsConsumerClubCardElite.png" height="105" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 03:27:40 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Help-me-stay-in-the-Garden-Diners-Club-related/m-p/3595895#M987181</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-11-04T03:27:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Help me stay in the Garden... (Diners Club related)</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Help-me-stay-in-the-Garden-Diners-Club-related/m-p/3595927#M987189</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;GET BACK IN THE GARDEN!!!!!&lt;/STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp; If you question the annual fee and whether it is worth it for your spend, then leave it alone for now.&amp;nbsp; Do NOT make me put up an electric fence!!!!!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 03:36:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Help-me-stay-in-the-Garden-Diners-Club-related/m-p/3595927#M987189</guid>
      <dc:creator>PandiferBear</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-11-04T03:36:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Help me stay in the Garden... (Diners Club related)</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Help-me-stay-in-the-Garden-Diners-Club-related/m-p/3595931#M987190</link>
      <description>Don't visit this forum is a start! it helped me in the past</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 03:38:15 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Help-me-stay-in-the-Garden-Diners-Club-related/m-p/3595931#M987190</guid>
      <dc:creator>Luscher</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-11-04T03:38:15Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Help me stay in the Garden... (Diners Club related)</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Help-me-stay-in-the-Garden-Diners-Club-related/m-p/3595935#M987191</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;but... but.... look at how purdy the card is, with the emv chip and all, ya know... the whole real chip &amp;amp; pin card. just one more app wouldn't kill you. make this your last app of 2014! go out with a bang!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG alt="" width="162" border="0" src="https://www.dinersclubus.com/us/images/en/detailsConsumerClubCardElite.png" height="105" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Besides the WEMC logo and the AF what benefits does this card offer over the Premiere? Your statement has been my mindset.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 03:38:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Help-me-stay-in-the-Garden-Diners-Club-related/m-p/3595935#M987191</guid>
      <dc:creator>-Cal-</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-11-04T03:38:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Help me stay in the Garden... (Diners Club related)</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Help-me-stay-in-the-Garden-Diners-Club-related/m-p/3595959#M987193</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;This is me, helping you stay in the garden...please remember, you asked.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Gardening is a decision NOT to apply for new lines of credit.&amp;nbsp; Period.&amp;nbsp; You're going to see lots of options and opportunities to apply for the next bigger better credit card.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Why are you in the garden?&amp;nbsp; Have you accomplished what you set out to?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Gardening is also a means to an end.&amp;nbsp; If applying for the new card will earn or save you dollars, it might make sense for you.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Whatever you decide, don't decide in a hurry.&amp;nbsp; Diners club will still be there next week....and so will the garden.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 03:44:21 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Help-me-stay-in-the-Garden-Diners-Club-related/m-p/3595959#M987193</guid>
      <dc:creator>tcbofade</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-11-04T03:44:21Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Help me stay in the Garden... (Diners Club related)</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Help-me-stay-in-the-Garden-Diners-Club-related/m-p/3595963#M987194</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/746155"&gt;@-Cal-&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;but... but.... look at how purdy the card is, with the emv chip and all, ya know... the whole real chip &amp;amp; pin card. just one more app wouldn't kill you. make this your last app of 2014! go out with a bang!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG alt="" width="162" border="0" src="https://www.dinersclubus.com/us/images/en/detailsConsumerClubCardElite.png" height="105" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Besides the WEMC logo and the AF what benefits does this card offer over the Premiere? Your statement has been my mindset.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I think the difference would be the rewards, with 300 annual fee and fancy WEMC logo, you get Earn 3 points per dollar spent at gas stations, grocery stores, and drug stores, while 95 annual fee premier is 1 points per dollar spent for every purchase.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;you can get more info &lt;A href="http://creditcardforum.com/blog/review-diners-club-card-premier-and-elite/" target="_self"&gt;here&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 03:47:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Help-me-stay-in-the-Garden-Diners-Club-related/m-p/3595963#M987194</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-11-04T03:47:12Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Help me stay in the Garden... (Diners Club related)</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Help-me-stay-in-the-Garden-Diners-Club-related/m-p/3596319#M987287</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;If you just went into the garden, that implies you think you've had enough applications recently and it is bad form to do too many HP.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So by applying for DC, you force the situation of "too many&amp;nbsp;HP", find out if anything materializes from it, and have two possible outcomes:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1) You DON'T get a card, get a denial, and learn that, yes you did too many recent applications, then you will be able to garden without remorse.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2) You&amp;nbsp;DO get a card, determine that it's probably a good credit limit,&amp;nbsp;and can relax and garden without remorse.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Is that helping you to not apply? &lt;img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 06:01:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Help-me-stay-in-the-Garden-Diners-Club-related/m-p/3596319#M987287</guid>
      <dc:creator>NRB525</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-11-04T06:01:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Help me stay in the Garden... (Diners Club related)</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Help-me-stay-in-the-Garden-Diners-Club-related/m-p/3596389#M987294</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;go for it. I am a firm believer in apping to your hearts content.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 06:14:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Help-me-stay-in-the-Garden-Diners-Club-related/m-p/3596389#M987294</guid>
      <dc:creator>Hockeyplayrr</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-11-04T06:14:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Help me stay in the Garden... (Diners Club related)</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Help-me-stay-in-the-Garden-Diners-Club-related/m-p/3596405#M987295</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I throw in my two cents, if you don't know if AF is worth it, i assume you don't really know how you would use your card to maximize your spending? You probably should take an step back and do some more research on the card if its an card you would actually use to make it worth the really high AF. Another thing to note about DC cards is they don't have any signup bonuses , so you would really have to put an lot of spend on that card to make it worth while if you are worried about Annual fee.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 06:18:07 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Help-me-stay-in-the-Garden-Diners-Club-related/m-p/3596405#M987295</guid>
      <dc:creator>mongstradamus</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-11-04T06:18:07Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Help me stay in the Garden... (Diners Club related)</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Help-me-stay-in-the-Garden-Diners-Club-related/m-p/3596427#M987296</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;a thing to note. &amp;nbsp;If you try to use points for statement credit they are only worth around 6/10 of a penny. &amp;nbsp;only worth 1 cent a piece if you apply it toward an annual fee. &amp;nbsp;Best thing is to transfer the points. (this is based on redemeptions for the professional cards, nothing has been rolled out for the consumer cards yet)&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 06:21:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Help-me-stay-in-the-Garden-Diners-Club-related/m-p/3596427#M987296</guid>
      <dc:creator>Hockeyplayrr</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-11-04T06:21:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Help me stay in the Garden... (Diners Club related)</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Help-me-stay-in-the-Garden-Diners-Club-related/m-p/3596449#M987300</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;If it helps you at all, I was approved for Diners with TONS of INQS and more than a few new accounts opened in the past 3 months, so if you are worried about that, don't be.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;From your sig, it looks like the majority of your cards are no AF cards. You have to decide if another AF is worth it to you.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My 2 pennies &lt;img id="smileywink" class="emoticon emoticon-smileywink" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif" alt="Smiley Wink" title="Smiley Wink" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 06:30:29 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Help-me-stay-in-the-Garden-Diners-Club-related/m-p/3596449#M987300</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-11-04T06:30:29Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Help me stay in the Garden... (Diners Club related)</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Help-me-stay-in-the-Garden-Diners-Club-related/m-p/3596477#M987309</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/720709"&gt;@mongstradamus&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;I throw in my two cents, if you don't know if AF is worth it, i assume you don't really know how you would use your card to maximize your spending? You probably should take an step back and do some more research on the card if its an card you would actually use to make it worth the really high AF. Another thing to note about DC cards is they don't have any signup bonuses , so you would really have to put an lot of spend on that card to make it worth while if you are worried about Annual fee.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Very good point. I rather have the Arrival+ instead of the Premiere and the Ritz Carlton/Citi Prestige instead of the Elite.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 06:54:34 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>-Cal-</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-11-04T06:54:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Help me stay in the Garden... (Diners Club related)</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Help-me-stay-in-the-Garden-Diners-Club-related/m-p/3596509#M987314</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;RedMiniStapler&lt;/STRONG&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;but... but.... look at how purdy the card is, with the emv chip and all, ya know... the whole real chip &amp;amp; pin card. just one more app wouldn't kill you. make this your last app of 2014! go out with a bang!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG alt="" width="162" border="0" src="https://www.dinersclubus.com/us/images/en/detailsConsumerClubCardElite.png" height="105" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;You are a "good support"&lt;/STRONG&gt; ..... OP I know how you feel as I want that card soooo badly but I stick to my plan..no apps within 6 months of another app and therefore forced myself to garden any further.&amp;nbsp; The good thing is that now I have time to think about which one to apply for when I am ready.&amp;nbsp; DCP or DCE and tend to go for the DCE and eat the hefty AF on that one. Stay strong - you can do it !&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 07:23:48 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>lg8302ch</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-11-04T07:23:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Help me stay in the Garden... (Diners Club related)</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Help-me-stay-in-the-Garden-Diners-Club-related/m-p/3596603#M987323</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/639972"&gt;@lg8302ch&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;RedMiniStapler&lt;/STRONG&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;but... but.... look at how purdy the card is, with the emv chip and all, ya know... the whole real chip &amp;amp; pin card. just one more app wouldn't kill you. make this your last app of 2014! go out with a bang!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG alt="" width="162" border="0" src="https://www.dinersclubus.com/us/images/en/detailsConsumerClubCardElite.png" height="105" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;You are a "good support"&lt;/STRONG&gt; ..... OP I know how you feel as I want that card soooo badly but I stick to my plan..no apps within 6 months of another app and therefore forced myself to garden any further.&amp;nbsp; The good thing is that now I have time to think about which one to apply for when I am ready.&amp;nbsp; DCP or DCE and tend to go for the DCE and eat the hefty AF on that one. Stay strong - you can do it !&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;So what is the real attraction behind this card other than the large credit limits that most people seem to be getting?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Is there some hidden perk / feature that I am missing?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;if it is just the huge CLs, what's to guarantee that the issuing bank (BMO Harris) will not reverse course and start cancelling cards or reducing limits? That happened to the Duck card last year.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 09:15:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Help-me-stay-in-the-Garden-Diners-Club-related/m-p/3596603#M987323</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-11-04T09:15:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Help me stay in the Garden... (Diners Club related)</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Help-me-stay-in-the-Garden-Diners-Club-related/m-p/3596789#M987356</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/746155"&gt;@-Cal-&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;I just went into the Garden a few days ago but I'm having a hard time convincing myself not to apply for&amp;nbsp;Diner's Club...&amp;nbsp;The one thing that keeps me from doing it is that I cannot justify the AF. I have a feeling I'm going to come across another success story and just say F-it and apply.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Where's my support group!?&amp;nbsp;&lt;img id="smileyvery-happy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyvery-happy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Very Happy" title="Smiley Very Happy" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I say do it. Ge it out of your system. &amp;nbsp;I will pay AF for 30k line.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 13:37:54 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Help-me-stay-in-the-Garden-Diners-Club-related/m-p/3596789#M987356</guid>
      <dc:creator>taxi818</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-11-04T13:37:54Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Help me stay in the Garden... (Diners Club related)</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Help-me-stay-in-the-Garden-Diners-Club-related/m-p/3596793#M987358</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/639972"&gt;@lg8302ch&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;RedMiniStapler&lt;/STRONG&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;but... but.... look at how purdy the card is, with the emv chip and all, ya know... the whole real chip &amp;amp; pin card. just one more app wouldn't kill you. make this your last app of 2014! go out with a bang!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG alt="" width="162" border="0" src="https://www.dinersclubus.com/us/images/en/detailsConsumerClubCardElite.png" height="105" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;You are a "good support"&lt;/STRONG&gt; ..... OP I know how you feel as I want that card soooo badly but I stick to my plan..no apps within 6 months of another app and therefore forced myself to garden any further.&amp;nbsp; The good thing is that now I have time to think about which one to apply for when I am ready.&amp;nbsp; DCP or DCE and tend to go for the DCE and eat the hefty AF on that one. Stay strong - you can do it !&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Funny. Lmao&lt;img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 13:39:33 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Help-me-stay-in-the-Garden-Diners-Club-related/m-p/3596793#M987358</guid>
      <dc:creator>taxi818</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-11-04T13:39:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Help me stay in the Garden... (Diners Club related)</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Help-me-stay-in-the-Garden-Diners-Club-related/m-p/3596819#M987362</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/639972"&gt;@lg8302ch&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;RedMiniStapler&lt;/STRONG&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;but... but.... look at how purdy the card is, with the emv chip and all, ya know... the whole real chip &amp;amp; pin card. just one more app wouldn't kill you. make this your last app of 2014! go out with a bang!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;You are a "good support"&lt;/STRONG&gt; ..... OP I know how you feel as I want that card soooo badly but I stick to my plan..no apps within 6 months of another app and therefore forced myself to garden any further.&amp;nbsp; The good thing is that now I have time to think about which one to apply for when I am ready.&amp;nbsp; DCP or DCE and tend to go for the DCE and eat the hefty AF on that one. Stay strong - you can do it !&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;So what is the real attraction behind this card other than the large credit limits that most people seem to be getting?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Is there some hidden perk / feature that I am missing?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;if it is just the huge CLs, what's to guarantee that the issuing bank (BMO Harris) will not reverse course and start cancelling cards or reducing limits? That happened to the Duck card last year.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Access to 500 airport lounges, mostly overseas. Chip + PIN, not the lame signature primary, 13.15% APR, no FX fee (expected with the AF). These are benefits of both cards, so $95 AF gets them too.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 13:56:54 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Help-me-stay-in-the-Garden-Diners-Club-related/m-p/3596819#M987362</guid>
      <dc:creator>NRB525</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-11-04T13:56:54Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Help me stay in the Garden... (Diners Club related)</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Help-me-stay-in-the-Garden-Diners-Club-related/m-p/3596937#M987385</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;With the cards you already have what does Diners offer you? &amp;nbsp;Plant some corn&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Leave it where it is and hunker down in the garden. Winter is a coming!!! &lt;img id="smileywink" class="emoticon emoticon-smileywink" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif" alt="Smiley Wink" title="Smiley Wink" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 15:13:41 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Help-me-stay-in-the-Garden-Diners-Club-related/m-p/3596937#M987385</guid>
      <dc:creator>MissMoni223</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-11-04T15:13:41Z</dc:date>
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