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    <title>topic Re: self-lender loans in Understanding FICO® Scoring</title>
    <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/self-lender-loans/m-p/5903043#M165058</link>
    <description>Well its adds 15-45 point depending on profile (paid &amp;lt;8.9%), so I guess exaggerated is subjective or could depend on how many points one needs.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Be aware though OP, if you are on a dirty card, you will probably have a maximum score you can reach until the baddies go byebye.</description>
    <pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2020 22:10:51 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2020-02-02T22:10:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>self-lender loans</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/self-lender-loans/m-p/5902231#M165023</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I hear that installment loans can improve your credit. I do not have a loan on my home or car, so I have no installment loans. i read that they are supposed to help your credit score, but them it sounds like they don't actually cause a positive effect until you owe less than 8.9% and that then you lose points when they are paid. I am so confused. Should I get one or no? [score stuck for months at 668]&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2020 05:42:29 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/self-lender-loans/m-p/5902231#M165023</guid>
      <dc:creator>vicky3vicky</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-02-02T05:42:29Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: self-lender loans</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/self-lender-loans/m-p/5902245#M165026</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1049058"&gt;@vicky3vicky&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;I hear that installment loans can improve your credit. I do not have a loan on my home or car, so I have no installment loans. i read that they are supposed to help your credit score, but them it sounds like they don't actually cause a positive effect until you owe less than 8.9% and that then you lose points when they are paid. I am so confused. Should I get one or no? [score stuck for months at 668]&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I would recommend addressing any&amp;nbsp;derogatory or delinquency that is&amp;nbsp;suppressing your scores.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If&amp;nbsp;utilization is high, then seek AZEO All Zero Except One.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;After reading the below, then I would suggest at minimum a 5 year SSL. 1 year would be too short and you may be penalized for opening new accounts (if on a clean score card), lowering AAoA Average Age of Accounts.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Here are good primers to read.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/Adding-an-installment-loan-the-Share-Secure-technique/td-p/4506756" target="_blank"&gt;Adding an installment loan -- the Share Secure technique&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Personal-Finance/The-Quest-for-an-SSL-alternative-to-Alliant/td-p/5162448" target="_blank"&gt;The Quest for an SSL alternative to Alliant&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2020 06:03:45 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/self-lender-loans/m-p/5902245#M165026</guid>
      <dc:creator>AllZero</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-02-02T06:03:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: self-lender loans</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/self-lender-loans/m-p/5902249#M165027</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Here are two institutions that have SSL which you can pay in advance to 8.9% utilization without shortening loan term:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;NFCU - membership restrictions.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;SSFCU - geofence.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2020 06:13:47 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/self-lender-loans/m-p/5902249#M165027</guid>
      <dc:creator>AllZero</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-02-02T06:13:47Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: self-lender loans</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/self-lender-loans/m-p/5902412#M165033</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1049058"&gt;@vicky3vicky&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;I hear that installment loans can improve your credit. I do not have a loan on my home or car, so I have no installment loans. i read that they are supposed to help your credit score, but them it sounds like they don't actually cause a positive effect until you owe less than 8.9% and that then you lose points when they are paid. I am so confused. Should I get one or no? [score stuck for months at 668]&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;IMHO, no. I think the positive effects of adding a new account like that are greatly exaggerated in this forum.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2020 13:33:21 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/self-lender-loans/m-p/5902412#M165033</guid>
      <dc:creator>SouthJamaica</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-02-02T13:33:21Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: self-lender loans</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/self-lender-loans/m-p/5903043#M165058</link>
      <description>Well its adds 15-45 point depending on profile (paid &amp;lt;8.9%), so I guess exaggerated is subjective or could depend on how many points one needs.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Be aware though OP, if you are on a dirty card, you will probably have a maximum score you can reach until the baddies go byebye.</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2020 22:10:51 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/self-lender-loans/m-p/5903043#M165058</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-02-02T22:10:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: self-lender loans</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/self-lender-loans/m-p/5906812#M165161</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I currently have a self lender loan ... I also currently have a car loan ... The Self lender loan really didnt do anything for me ... I use Self Lender .. there credit score for me is&amp;nbsp; not a Fico score .. its actually really low and they dont report the updated balance on time .. i just will continue to pay on it and consider it a little savings account so when it matures i get it back ... A Self Lender loan also give you the option to utilize money you have accumulated and they will send you a Secured credit card with your current deposit(s) as the limit. this might be a great idea with someone rebuilding credit as well ..&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 05 Feb 2020 19:57:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/self-lender-loans/m-p/5906812#M165161</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-02-05T19:57:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: self-lender loans</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/self-lender-loans/m-p/5907270#M165169</link>
      <description>@Anonymous It goes by aggregate installment utilization. So you have to consider the car loan as well that’s why it’s not helping you most likely.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 06 Feb 2020 01:15:41 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-02-06T01:15:41Z</dc:date>
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