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    <title>topic Re: Need help understanding FICO 5 scoring... in Understanding FICO® Scoring</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;From my own personal experience because I am buying a house. I have noticed the old fico scores will crush you if you have new accounts and INQs. While rebuilding my scores, my Fico 8 has been pretty steady, while the old fico goes wild. I have noticed that if I just do nothing and let it age, the old scores love it.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I got 19 points this morning on my EX 02 from going from 49 to 48 util and losing an INQ, my Fico 8 didnt move. Id bet real money, my old ficos are about to be higher then my fico 8 here shortly as I get my util down.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2021 15:11:30 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>tooleman694</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2021-01-21T15:11:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Need help understanding FICO 5 scoring...</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;My FICO 5 score is 70 points less than my 8.&amp;nbsp; Can someone point me to info on how 5 is scored and/or general information on maximizing my score (ie: use AZEO, etc).&amp;nbsp; Thanks!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2021 01:49:36 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>wvasweetness</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-01-18T01:49:36Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Need help understanding FICO 5 scoring...</title>
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      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/116700"&gt;@wvasweetness&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;My FICO 5 score is 70 points less than my 8.&amp;nbsp; Can someone point me to info on how 5 is scored and/or general information on maximizing my score (ie: use AZEO, etc).&amp;nbsp; Thanks!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm not sure if we know all there is that goes into the secret recipe for EQ5 scoring.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.myfico.com/credit-education/credit-scores/fico-score-versions" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;https://www.myfico.com/credit-education/credit-scores/fico-score-versions&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;How does your profile look like?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Are you at AZEO now?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;How is your reported individual and aggregate utilization?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What MMS are you trying to achieve?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I would recommend reading the below from &lt;A href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/987267" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;ABCD2199&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/The-Truth-about-Credit-Card-Utilization/m-p/5116660" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;The Truth about Credit Card Utilization&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A href="http://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/ABCD2199-s-Eleven-Rules-to-Credit-Rebuilding/td-p/5074148" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;My 11 Rules to Credit Rebuilding&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Rebuilding-Your-Credit/FICO-Score-What-to-pay-down-first/m-p/5137528" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;FICO Score: What to pay down first?&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;From &lt;A href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1047067" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;Birdman7&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/General-Scoring-Primer-and-Version-8-Master-Thread-rev-5-17-20/td-p/6023348" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;General Scoring Primer and Version 8 Master Thread rev.5.17.20&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2021 02:09:51 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>AllZero</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-01-18T02:09:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Need help understanding FICO 5 scoring...</title>
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      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/116700"&gt;@wvasweetness&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;My FICO 5 score is 70 points less than my 8.&amp;nbsp; Can someone point me to info on how 5 is scored and/or general information on maximizing my score (ie: use AZEO, etc).&amp;nbsp; Thanks!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;My feeling is that it loves zero balances, and abhors new inquiries and accounts&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2021 03:37:21 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>SouthJamaica</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-01-19T03:37:21Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Need help understanding FICO 5 scoring...</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Will need to hear back from the OP with profile details in order to provide solid recommendations.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2021 13:50:15 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-01-19T13:50:15Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Need help understanding FICO 5 scoring...</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/Need-help-understanding-FICO-5-scoring/m-p/6235527#M182742</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;From my own personal experience because I am buying a house. I have noticed the old fico scores will crush you if you have new accounts and INQs. While rebuilding my scores, my Fico 8 has been pretty steady, while the old fico goes wild. I have noticed that if I just do nothing and let it age, the old scores love it.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I got 19 points this morning on my EX 02 from going from 49 to 48 util and losing an INQ, my Fico 8 didnt move. Id bet real money, my old ficos are about to be higher then my fico 8 here shortly as I get my util down.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2021 15:11:30 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>tooleman694</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-01-21T15:11:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Need help understanding FICO 5 scoring...</title>
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      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/875377"&gt;@SouthJamaica&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/116700"&gt;@wvasweetness&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;My FICO 5 score is 70 points less than my 8.&amp;nbsp; Can someone point me to info on how 5 is scored and/or general information on maximizing my score (ie: use AZEO, etc).&amp;nbsp; Thanks!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;My feeling is that it loves zero balances, and abhors new inquiries and accounts&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'll add to that by saying that mortgage scores start losing their s**t when aggregate revolving balances top $10k, and really suffer over $20k.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Mortgage scores also more strongly prefer fewer accounts with reporting balances.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My FICO 8's have run 800+ consistently for 4+ years now.&amp;nbsp; My mortgage scores run 720-760.&amp;nbsp; When I'm next in the market for a mortgage, I'll payoff my revolvers to a $5k cap, and position myself as inquiry free for no less than 6mo (pref 1 year).&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2021 18:45:08 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>hdporter</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-01-24T18:45:08Z</dc:date>
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