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    <title>topic Re: FICO vs FAKO? in Understanding FICO® Scoring</title>
    <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/FICO-vs-FAKO/m-p/1789704#M68239</link>
    <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/654980"&gt;@Linsys&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm sure this question gets asked over and over again, but I'm still slightly confused...&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I generally use Truecredit.com and get a monthy credit score from all 3 CRs. My latest score for Transunion is 676 (the other two update on the 9ths my last scores where in the 650s); however when I setup the quartly myFICO reporting account, my FICO reported as 729!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm obviously amazed at this number, because CreditKama shows me at 670 and credit sesame shows me at 693. I can't beleive that my score is 729, because I just applied for a Walmart CC and only received a $150 limit...&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Not sure what to think here.. The reason I am trying to get my credit score up is to get a second vehicle (well I already have a second vehicle but I want to trade it in for newer truck) and to get a mortgage.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;The scores from TrueCredit are FAKOs called a VantageScore and run off a range of 501-990. CreditKarma focuses on TU only and offers two FAKOs: VantageScore &amp;nbsp;(score would match Truecredit if pulled the same day) and offers a FAKO called a Transrisk score. Transrisk used to be on TrueCredit many moons ago and runs on a scale of 350ish to 850. Conversely FICO generally runs on a scale of 300-850.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CreditSesame uses EX vs. TU and their FAKO is called a National Equivalency Score and that has a range of 360-850.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;To confuse things, GECRB underwrites Wal-Mart and others and they don't use a FICO. They use an internal score that tops at 620 and starts at 200 I think. Even when my FICOs were high, I was still being denied cards from Wal-Mart and JCP. Starting at a lower limit isn't uncommon.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What strikes me about your post is that your Vantage was 676 and your corresponding FICO at 729. Remember FICO is at 300-850 and Vantage at 501-990. Usually Vantage is higher because of the scale. All the more reason to ignore FAKOs.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 14:03:47 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>llecs</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2013-01-06T14:03:47Z</dc:date>
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      <title>FICO vs FAKO?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/FICO-vs-FAKO/m-p/1789644#M68237</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I'm sure this question gets asked over and over again, but I'm still slightly confused...&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I generally use Truecredit.com and get a monthy credit score from all 3 CRs. My latest score for Transunion is 676 (the other two update on the 9ths my last scores where in the 650s); however when I setup the quartly myFICO reporting account, my FICO reported as 729!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm obviously amazed at this number, because CreditKama shows me at 670 and credit sesame shows me at 693. I can't beleive that my score is 729, because I just applied for a Walmart CC and only received a $150 limit...&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Not sure what to think here.. The reason I am trying to get my credit score up is to get a second vehicle (well I already have a second vehicle but I want to trade it in for newer truck) and to get a mortgage.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 11:07:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/FICO-vs-FAKO/m-p/1789644#M68237</guid>
      <dc:creator>Linsys</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-01-06T11:07:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: FICO vs FAKO?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/FICO-vs-FAKO/m-p/1789704#M68239</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/654980"&gt;@Linsys&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm sure this question gets asked over and over again, but I'm still slightly confused...&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I generally use Truecredit.com and get a monthy credit score from all 3 CRs. My latest score for Transunion is 676 (the other two update on the 9ths my last scores where in the 650s); however when I setup the quartly myFICO reporting account, my FICO reported as 729!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm obviously amazed at this number, because CreditKama shows me at 670 and credit sesame shows me at 693. I can't beleive that my score is 729, because I just applied for a Walmart CC and only received a $150 limit...&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Not sure what to think here.. The reason I am trying to get my credit score up is to get a second vehicle (well I already have a second vehicle but I want to trade it in for newer truck) and to get a mortgage.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;The scores from TrueCredit are FAKOs called a VantageScore and run off a range of 501-990. CreditKarma focuses on TU only and offers two FAKOs: VantageScore &amp;nbsp;(score would match Truecredit if pulled the same day) and offers a FAKO called a Transrisk score. Transrisk used to be on TrueCredit many moons ago and runs on a scale of 350ish to 850. Conversely FICO generally runs on a scale of 300-850.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CreditSesame uses EX vs. TU and their FAKO is called a National Equivalency Score and that has a range of 360-850.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;To confuse things, GECRB underwrites Wal-Mart and others and they don't use a FICO. They use an internal score that tops at 620 and starts at 200 I think. Even when my FICOs were high, I was still being denied cards from Wal-Mart and JCP. Starting at a lower limit isn't uncommon.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What strikes me about your post is that your Vantage was 676 and your corresponding FICO at 729. Remember FICO is at 300-850 and Vantage at 501-990. Usually Vantage is higher because of the scale. All the more reason to ignore FAKOs.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 14:03:47 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/FICO-vs-FAKO/m-p/1789704#M68239</guid>
      <dc:creator>llecs</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-01-06T14:03:47Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: FICO vs FAKO?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/FICO-vs-FAKO/m-p/1789754#M68245</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;The various scores have different sensitivities to items in your credit report. &amp;nbsp;It appears you have something which pushes the FAKOs down, but that FICO does not consider so bad. &amp;nbsp;Also note that there can be some variation between the FICO scores from each of the 3 CRAs, and there is an Auto enhanced version of FICO which some car lenders use.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 14:42:47 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/FICO-vs-FAKO/m-p/1789754#M68245</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-01-06T14:42:47Z</dc:date>
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