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    <title>topic PIF or Settle - Charge Off but still with original creditor in Understanding FICO® Scoring</title>
    <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/PIF-or-Settle-Charge-Off-but-still-with-original-creditor/m-p/1875401#M69176</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;I owe CapOne on an account that was charged off but never sent to a collection agency. The account is about 5 years delinquent. I am applying for a house so I need to get this taken care off. I am reading mixed reviews on what whether to try to settle or pay in full. Based on the simulator it seems like paying it in full would have a huge increase in my credit score since this debt is still coming up for my debt utilization. Does it matter that this was never sent to a collection agency? I'm just trying ot figure out what to do.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 20:45:53 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2013-02-13T20:45:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>PIF or Settle - Charge Off but still with original creditor</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/PIF-or-Settle-Charge-Off-but-still-with-original-creditor/m-p/1875401#M69176</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I owe CapOne on an account that was charged off but never sent to a collection agency. The account is about 5 years delinquent. I am applying for a house so I need to get this taken care off. I am reading mixed reviews on what whether to try to settle or pay in full. Based on the simulator it seems like paying it in full would have a huge increase in my credit score since this debt is still coming up for my debt utilization. Does it matter that this was never sent to a collection agency? I'm just trying ot figure out what to do.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 20:45:53 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-02-13T20:45:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PIF or Settle - Charge Off but still with original creditor</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/PIF-or-Settle-Charge-Off-but-still-with-original-creditor/m-p/1875405#M69177</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I forgot to mention that this is my only debt besides student loans and car payment. I had a few other charge offs but everything is paid in full but this.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 20:46:54 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-02-13T20:46:54Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PIF or Settle - Charge Off but still with original creditor</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/PIF-or-Settle-Charge-Off-but-still-with-original-creditor/m-p/1875591#M69178</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;No it doesn't matter that it was never sent to a CA.&amp;nbsp; It just means Cap one owns the debt and never assigned it to one.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Yes, paying it off will help you temendously.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 22:17:17 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-02-13T22:17:17Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PIF or Settle - Charge Off but still with original creditor</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/PIF-or-Settle-Charge-Off-but-still-with-original-creditor/m-p/1875709#M69179</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I agree that paying it should help your FICO score, if paying significantly lowers your revolving utilization.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; IMO it's also worth a shot to further negotiate with Cap1 to remove late payments.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You are lucky that a CA didn't get the debt because you very likely would have had a collection appear on your reports and your FICO score would have been hit again.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 23:15:38 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>pizzadude</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-02-13T23:15:38Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PIF or Settle - Charge Off but still with original creditor</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/PIF-or-Settle-Charge-Off-but-still-with-original-creditor/m-p/1875837#M69180</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;With the CO still there, removing the lates isn't going to help much.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 00:07:21 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-02-14T00:07:21Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PIF or Settle - Charge Off but still with original creditor</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/PIF-or-Settle-Charge-Off-but-still-with-original-creditor/m-p/1875879#M69181</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Yeah, I would advise negotiating for all the derogatory account info to be removed if possible.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 00:28:49 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>pizzadude</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-02-14T00:28:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PIF or Settle - Charge Off but still with original creditor</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/PIF-or-Settle-Charge-Off-but-still-with-original-creditor/m-p/1876173#M69188</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;A settled account is considered derogatory and could lower your score. I would pay in full.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 02:55:41 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>AndySoCal</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-02-14T02:55:41Z</dc:date>
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