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    <title>topic Re: Trying to move in the right direction for home ownership in Understanding FICO® Scoring</title>
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    <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;I really would like to purchase a home in 3 years around my 29th birthday . I graduated and I am working on improving the credit. I have about Ask in student debt. I think I am going to stop aping for anything. This past year my car died so I had to get one and I got a few new accounts. While aping I got a score from cit of 683 from exp. and a 718 from chase with equ. I am not sure what would be a good score to use for getting a mortgage but I do know that when I was 18/19 I got credit cards that dropped my scores near 550 so I think these scores are great compared to that. I really want the chase Disney visa but I had chase in college and it did not end well and they deny me for everything. The problem was I went on bedrest for 5 months when I was pregnant with my son and I missed a few payments while I was out of work and they closed my accounts. So I figured I would leave chase alone until I one day purchase a home. What should I do next besides save and pay off debt to improve my score. I read on my report that I do not have enough prime bank card accounts and lots of inquiries, and a charge off where negatively affecting my score. I have no idea what any of that means. I know I have to wait for the inq. to fall off 2 years. Im pretty sure I cannot do anything about a charge off. I put my family phone bill in my name and we switched to another company, I did not realize I had a balance but the company called and said if I paid so much I would not have to pay the full amount and it would not affect my credit. I am assuming that was the charge off and it did in fact affect my credit? Can someone explain a charge off and what is a prime card. I currently have the following cards. Do they mean non store cards by prime bank cards?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Jcpenny store&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;lowes store&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;children's place store&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Amex SPG&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Capitol one cash rewards&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;old navy store&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;new York and company store&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;toys r us mastercard&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;carecredit&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;citi thank you visa&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;The minimum score for an FHA loan is going to be 620 to 640.&amp;nbsp; A 740 gets you the best rates on conventional financing.&amp;nbsp; Remember these are "mid-scores", the middle score of the three real FICO scores, don't get confused by FAKO scores (the scores from apping for a car loan could be "auto-enhanced" so might not reflect what a mortgage lender would see).&amp;nbsp; You might also look at the NACA program which isn't score driven, requires no downpayment and has no closing costs.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;A chargeoff is an accounting term, where the lender classifies the loan as a bad debt.&amp;nbsp; That doesn't affect the fact you owe the debt and is a major derogatory.&amp;nbsp; Derogatory items age off 7 years plus 180 days from the Date of First Delinquency.&amp;nbsp; If the CO hasn't aged off a mortgage lender will almost certainly require you to pay it.&amp;nbsp; So if you still owe it and it's not going to age off soon you might try for a PFD.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Prime cards would be cards given to prime borrowers.&amp;nbsp; I believe your Amex and Citi Thankyou are considered Prime, your CapOne Cash Rewards may be, CapOne&amp;nbsp;offers both prime and subprime cards, Don't confuse that with store card vs. bank card.&amp;nbsp; A bank card is a card with a national logo (MC, VISA, Amex, Discover).&amp;nbsp; It's bank cards, not prime cards, that help your score more than store cards.&amp;nbsp; I think you have four bank cards -&amp;nbsp;Amex SPG, Capitol one cash rewards (probably a VISA),&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;toys r us mastercard, and citi thank you visa. The general recommendation is two or three bank cards.&amp;nbsp; Your credit card mixseems good, I wouldn't close any but there's really no reason to apply for more.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You aren't clear about how your cards are showing on your reports.&amp;nbsp; While you want to use each card and let it report a balance occasionally, to maximize your score you want to be sure your utilization is less than 10% total, no card has util much over 10%, and "more than half" of your cards report a zero balance.&amp;nbsp; So of your 10 cards, be sure 6 report zero each month.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Inquiries stop affecting score after one year although they stay on your report for two.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Seriously, if I were you I would go to a NACA workshop now, and you could probably be qualified within six months to a year.&amp;nbsp; Rates are a little lower right now, my NACA loan closed last April, 30 year fixed, no closing costs, no downpayment, 2.92%.&amp;nbsp; My principal, interest, taxes and insurance are less than I was paying for rent.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2013 13:15:42 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>chasmith</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2013-02-17T13:15:42Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Trying to move in the right direction for home ownership</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;I really would like to purchase a home in 3 years around my 29th birthday . I graduated and I am working on improving the credit. I have about Ask in student debt. I think I am going to stop aping for anything. This past year my car died so I had to get one and I got a few new accounts. While aping I got a score from cit of 683 from exp. and a 718 from chase with equ. I am not sure what would be a good score to use for getting a mortgage but I do know that when I was 18/19 I got credit cards that dropped my scores near 550 so I think these scores are great compared to that. I really want the chase Disney visa but I had chase in college and it did not end well and they deny me for everything. The problem was I went on bedrest for 5 months when I was pregnant with my son and I missed a few payments while I was out of work and they closed my accounts. So I figured I would leave chase alone until I one day purchase a home. What should I do next besides save and pay off debt to improve my score. I read on my report that I do not have enough prime bank card accounts and lots of inquiries, and a charge off where negatively affecting my score. I have no idea what any of that means. I know I have to wait for the inq. to fall off 2 years. Im pretty sure I cannot do anything about a charge off. I put my family phone bill in my name and we switched to another company, I did not realize I had a balance but the company called and said if I paid so much I would not have to pay the full amount and it would not affect my credit. I am assuming that was the charge off and it did in fact affect my credit? Can someone explain a charge off and what is a prime card. I currently have the following cards. Do they mean non store cards by prime bank cards?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Jcpenny store&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;lowes store&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;children's place store&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Amex SPG&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Capitol one cash rewards&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;old navy store&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;new York and company store&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;toys r us mastercard&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;carecredit&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;citi thank you visa&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2013 07:46:25 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-02-17T07:46:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Trying to move in the right direction for home ownership</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/Trying-to-move-in-the-right-direction-for-home-ownership/m-p/1884349#M69273</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;I really would like to purchase a home in 3 years around my 29th birthday . I graduated and I am working on improving the credit. I have about Ask in student debt. I think I am going to stop aping for anything. This past year my car died so I had to get one and I got a few new accounts. While aping I got a score from cit of 683 from exp. and a 718 from chase with equ. I am not sure what would be a good score to use for getting a mortgage but I do know that when I was 18/19 I got credit cards that dropped my scores near 550 so I think these scores are great compared to that. I really want the chase Disney visa but I had chase in college and it did not end well and they deny me for everything. The problem was I went on bedrest for 5 months when I was pregnant with my son and I missed a few payments while I was out of work and they closed my accounts. So I figured I would leave chase alone until I one day purchase a home. What should I do next besides save and pay off debt to improve my score. I read on my report that I do not have enough prime bank card accounts and lots of inquiries, and a charge off where negatively affecting my score. I have no idea what any of that means. I know I have to wait for the inq. to fall off 2 years. Im pretty sure I cannot do anything about a charge off. I put my family phone bill in my name and we switched to another company, I did not realize I had a balance but the company called and said if I paid so much I would not have to pay the full amount and it would not affect my credit. I am assuming that was the charge off and it did in fact affect my credit? Can someone explain a charge off and what is a prime card. I currently have the following cards. Do they mean non store cards by prime bank cards?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Jcpenny store&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;lowes store&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;children's place store&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Amex SPG&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Capitol one cash rewards&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;old navy store&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;new York and company store&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;toys r us mastercard&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;carecredit&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;citi thank you visa&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;The minimum score for an FHA loan is going to be 620 to 640.&amp;nbsp; A 740 gets you the best rates on conventional financing.&amp;nbsp; Remember these are "mid-scores", the middle score of the three real FICO scores, don't get confused by FAKO scores (the scores from apping for a car loan could be "auto-enhanced" so might not reflect what a mortgage lender would see).&amp;nbsp; You might also look at the NACA program which isn't score driven, requires no downpayment and has no closing costs.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;A chargeoff is an accounting term, where the lender classifies the loan as a bad debt.&amp;nbsp; That doesn't affect the fact you owe the debt and is a major derogatory.&amp;nbsp; Derogatory items age off 7 years plus 180 days from the Date of First Delinquency.&amp;nbsp; If the CO hasn't aged off a mortgage lender will almost certainly require you to pay it.&amp;nbsp; So if you still owe it and it's not going to age off soon you might try for a PFD.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Prime cards would be cards given to prime borrowers.&amp;nbsp; I believe your Amex and Citi Thankyou are considered Prime, your CapOne Cash Rewards may be, CapOne&amp;nbsp;offers both prime and subprime cards, Don't confuse that with store card vs. bank card.&amp;nbsp; A bank card is a card with a national logo (MC, VISA, Amex, Discover).&amp;nbsp; It's bank cards, not prime cards, that help your score more than store cards.&amp;nbsp; I think you have four bank cards -&amp;nbsp;Amex SPG, Capitol one cash rewards (probably a VISA),&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;toys r us mastercard, and citi thank you visa. The general recommendation is two or three bank cards.&amp;nbsp; Your credit card mixseems good, I wouldn't close any but there's really no reason to apply for more.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You aren't clear about how your cards are showing on your reports.&amp;nbsp; While you want to use each card and let it report a balance occasionally, to maximize your score you want to be sure your utilization is less than 10% total, no card has util much over 10%, and "more than half" of your cards report a zero balance.&amp;nbsp; So of your 10 cards, be sure 6 report zero each month.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Inquiries stop affecting score after one year although they stay on your report for two.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Seriously, if I were you I would go to a NACA workshop now, and you could probably be qualified within six months to a year.&amp;nbsp; Rates are a little lower right now, my NACA loan closed last April, 30 year fixed, no closing costs, no downpayment, 2.92%.&amp;nbsp; My principal, interest, taxes and insurance are less than I was paying for rent.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2013 13:15:42 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>chasmith</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-02-17T13:15:42Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Trying to move in the right direction for home ownership</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;I am kind of in the same boat. recently I paid a Charge Off account and surprisingly got a massive boost in my score. What I have now is five installment loans and two credit cards. I am on the cusp of a middle score of 700! My biggest hurdle has arrived! That is, playing the game....as I PIF my credit cards each month I recieve no benefit from the score. As I charge, pay some, leave a small balance...I may see a small increase over time or a small decrease for a later larger increase....time to make an attempt at figuring out what 'Ma'dam Zelda The Psychic' wants from us....&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2013 17:54:17 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>algorithmslave</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-02-17T17:54:17Z</dc:date>
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