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    <title>topic Understanding Credit Score in Understanding FICO® Scoring</title>
    <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/Understanding-Credit-Score/m-p/2674115#M76176</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;My credit score has been hooverign around 800, and does not appear to move higher.&amp;nbsp; Here is my profile...I have a few credit card: 1 Amex, 4 VISA/MCs.&amp;nbsp; I pay them off every month and carry no balance for over the last 25 years.&amp;nbsp; I don't have installment loan, mortgage nor car loan.&amp;nbsp; I bought my house and car with cash after I have saved enough money.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Occasionally, I may apply a store credit card to get certain discount.&amp;nbsp; But I have stopped doing it already.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I don't know if this is the reason why my credit score is not going higher:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1) the store credit that I apply and subsequent cancel is killing my credits core;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2) I get penalized because I don't have a mortgage or car loan.&amp;nbsp; But should it be more favorable to credit score if I don't have any.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 05:24:35 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2013-12-24T05:24:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Understanding Credit Score</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/Understanding-Credit-Score/m-p/2674115#M76176</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;My credit score has been hooverign around 800, and does not appear to move higher.&amp;nbsp; Here is my profile...I have a few credit card: 1 Amex, 4 VISA/MCs.&amp;nbsp; I pay them off every month and carry no balance for over the last 25 years.&amp;nbsp; I don't have installment loan, mortgage nor car loan.&amp;nbsp; I bought my house and car with cash after I have saved enough money.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Occasionally, I may apply a store credit card to get certain discount.&amp;nbsp; But I have stopped doing it already.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I don't know if this is the reason why my credit score is not going higher:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1) the store credit that I apply and subsequent cancel is killing my credits core;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2) I get penalized because I don't have a mortgage or car loan.&amp;nbsp; But should it be more favorable to credit score if I don't have any.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 05:24:35 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-12-24T05:24:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Understanding Credit Score</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/Understanding-Credit-Score/m-p/2674153#M76177</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi and welcome to the forum.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I know of several who only have credit cards and no mortage or installments and have an 800+ score.&amp;nbsp; There are also those that have no CC and still have an 800+.&amp;nbsp; So it can happen.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1.&amp;nbsp; Can you give details on how this is hurting your score.&amp;nbsp; I can see maybe an impact when the new account hits your report but not the closing of it.&amp;nbsp; The only impact would be the removal of the credit limit from factoring into your utilization.&amp;nbsp; But if you carry no balances it should not be an issue.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2.&amp;nbsp; No, I don't think you are penalized for that.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;When you pay off your credit cards, are they paid off before they report to the credit bureaus?&amp;nbsp; If not, that could be an issue if you have large balances reporting.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;FICO doesn't like all credit cards to report 0 balances nor all of them to carry balances.&amp;nbsp; For optimal scoring it is best to let all but one report 0 and the last one report at 9% or below.&amp;nbsp; Utilization is the one thing you can control.&amp;nbsp; Everyone has their own "sweet spot" for the optimal score.&amp;nbsp; It may just take some experimenting to find it.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 05:41:47 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-12-24T05:41:47Z</dc:date>
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