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    <title>topic Re: checking accounts in Understanding FICO® Scoring</title>
    <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/checking-accounts/m-p/69041#M9723</link>
    <description>&lt;DIV&gt;thanks tuscani--the real deal is --my account was&amp;nbsp; in new hampshire for years and live in CT so branch kept losing my deposits. Told me to switch to CT so mistakes on their part would stop.&amp;nbsp; Did not know I would need hard one--maybe soft.&amp;nbsp; Equifax holds everything against you.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 22:23:15 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-09-19T22:23:15Z</dc:date>
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      <title>checking accounts</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/checking-accounts/m-p/69032#M9721</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;hi-- can anyone tell me if opening abank account puts a hard ding on your report.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;thanks&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 22:09:33 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-09-19T22:09:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: checking accounts</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/checking-accounts/m-p/69033#M9722</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;Yes it can. &lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 22:13:06 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/checking-accounts/m-p/69033#M9722</guid>
      <dc:creator>Tuscani</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-09-19T22:13:06Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: checking accounts</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/checking-accounts/m-p/69041#M9723</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;thanks tuscani--the real deal is --my account was&amp;nbsp; in new hampshire for years and live in CT so branch kept losing my deposits. Told me to switch to CT so mistakes on their part would stop.&amp;nbsp; Did not know I would need hard one--maybe soft.&amp;nbsp; Equifax holds everything against you.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 22:23:15 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-09-19T22:23:15Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: checking accounts</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/checking-accounts/m-p/69080#M9726</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;Pleasant surprise...I opened a business checking a few days ago and expected to see a hard inquiry on one of my reports...but to my surprise and delight...nothing has appeared....&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 23:33:59 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-09-19T23:33:59Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: checking accounts</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/checking-accounts/m-p/69148#M9731</link>
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&lt;DIV&gt;Pleasant surprise...I opened a business checking a few days ago and expected to see a hard inquiry on one of my reports...but to my surprise and delight...nothing has appeared....&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
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      <pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 01:31:47 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>fused</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-09-20T01:31:47Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: checking accounts</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/checking-accounts/m-p/69187#M9733</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;depending on business your name or business name would be dun and bradstreet&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 03:10:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/checking-accounts/m-p/69187#M9733</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-09-20T03:10:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: checking accounts</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/checking-accounts/m-p/69191#M9734</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;i couldn't believe my bank gave me a hard since i already had an account and had to change state because of their errors. i think the cra thinks it was a loan of some kind. does anyone know?&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 03:12:57 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/checking-accounts/m-p/69191#M9734</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-09-20T03:12:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: checking accounts</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/checking-accounts/m-p/69196#M9735</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;casinoannie97 wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;i couldn't believe my bank gave me a hard since i already had an account and had to change state because of their errors. i think the cra thinks it was a loan of some kind. does anyone know?&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;The CRA thinks an inq is an inq.&amp;nbsp; Adding a cell phone line, switching to cable TV, opening a new bank account, getting utilities hooked up, are all "seeking for credit" to a CRA and FICO&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 03:17:01 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/checking-accounts/m-p/69196#M9735</guid>
      <dc:creator>MidnightVoice</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-09-20T03:17:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: checking accounts</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/checking-accounts/m-p/69206#M9738</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;THANKS BUT MY CABLE, PHONE, LAST BANK ACCT., WERE ALL SOFT.&amp;nbsp; I JUST SIMPLY DO NOT UNDERSTAND.&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 03:26:03 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-09-20T03:26:03Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: checking accounts</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/checking-accounts/m-p/69208#M9739</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;casinoannie97 wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;THANKS BUT MY CABLE, PHONE, LAST BANK ACCT., WERE ALL SOFT.&amp;nbsp; I JUST SIMPLY DO NOT UNDERSTAND.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Then you are lucky.&amp;nbsp; Try Cingular for a nice hard inq&amp;nbsp; &lt;img id="smileyvery-happy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyvery-happy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Very Happy" title="Smiley Very Happy" /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 03:28:18 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>MidnightVoice</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-09-20T03:28:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: checking accounts</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/checking-accounts/m-p/69210#M9740</link>
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&lt;DIV&gt;i couldn't believe my bank gave me a hard since i already had an account and had to change state because of their errors. i think the cra thinks it was a loan of some kind. does anyone know?&lt;/DIV&gt;
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&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;The CRA thinks an inq is an inq.&amp;nbsp; Adding a cell phone line, switching to cable TV, opening a new bank account, getting utilities hooked up, are all "seeking for credit" to a CRA and FICO&lt;BR /&gt;
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&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Oh! Utilities are an extension of credit but how can opening a savings account or a checking account without applying for overdraft protection be construed as&amp;nbsp;applying for new credit. Afterall, when I open these accounts they are borrowing my money, where is the PP for a bank to hard me? It's ridiculous! Geez why can't I pull the bank's credit and judge for myself if they are creditworthy and won't close their doors one day and run away with my money!&amp;nbsp;Ya know default!&lt;BR /&gt;
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      <pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 03:30:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/checking-accounts/m-p/69210#M9740</guid>
      <dc:creator>fused</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-09-20T03:30:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: checking accounts</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/checking-accounts/m-p/69216#M9741</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;fused111 wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Oh! Utilities are an extension of credit but how can opening a savings account or a checking account without applying for overdraft protection be construed as&amp;nbsp;applying for new credit. Afterall, when I open these accounts they are borrowing my money, where is the PP for a bank to hard me? It's ridiculous! Geez why can't I pull the bank's credit and judge for myself if they are creditworthy and won't close their doors one day and run away with my money!&amp;nbsp;Ya know default!&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;I agree.&amp;nbsp; But unfortunately the law is the law.&amp;nbsp; Damned PP&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;img id="smileyvery-happy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyvery-happy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Very Happy" title="Smiley Very Happy" /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 03:33:16 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>MidnightVoice</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-09-20T03:33:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: checking accounts utilities, etc.</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/checking-accounts/m-p/69225#M9743</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;I have cingular (now AT&amp;amp;T).&amp;nbsp; They did not pull hard.&amp;nbsp; These people are driving me crazy.&amp;nbsp; They do not do anything you expect them to do.&amp;nbsp; I had SBC, AT&amp;amp;T, Direct TV, Comcast and no hards.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 03:44:05 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-09-20T03:44:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: checking accounts utilities, etc.</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/checking-accounts/m-p/69230#M9744</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;casinoannie97 wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;I have cingular (now AT&amp;amp;T).&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;That is interesting.&amp;nbsp; They pulled a hard when I got a line, and again when I added a second one 6 months later.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;They are now both over 12 months old&amp;nbsp; &lt;img id="smileyvery-happy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyvery-happy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Very Happy" title="Smiley Very Happy" /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 03:52:03 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>MidnightVoice</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-09-20T03:52:03Z</dc:date>
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&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Oh! Utilities are an extension of credit but how can opening a savings account or a checking account without applying for overdraft protection be construed as&amp;nbsp;applying for new credit. Afterall, when I open these accounts they are borrowing my money, where is the PP for a bank to hard me? It's ridiculous! Geez why can't I pull the bank's credit and judge for myself if they are creditworthy and won't close their doors one day and run away with my money!&amp;nbsp;Ya know default!&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
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&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;I agree.&amp;nbsp; But unfortunately the law is the law.&amp;nbsp; Damned PP&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;img id="smileyvery-happy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyvery-happy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Very Happy" title="Smiley Very Happy" /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
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      <pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 04:36:47 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>fused</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-09-20T04:36:47Z</dc:date>
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