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    <title>topic Credit Reports, Charge card calcs, where is the correct scoring system &amp;quot;place&amp;quot; in General Credit Topics</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hey Chaps,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;OK so I have the citi identity moniter credit report system that downloads my scores and reports every month for me to see.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So my scores went down by approx 50 to 60 points out of nowhere in 1 month. Last month my Trans Union was 720 this month its 650&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Now I got approved for 2 Amex charge cards in dec 2010 and have been using them, my history is perfect for all accounts for years as in no missed payments hence the 720 score. I got a new lease bmw in dec 2010 too.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Questions"&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;- Does the citi credit score system consider charge cards a credit revolver card hence hurting my score? If so im going to cancel this bringer of fake bad news&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;-where can I get the actual real scores that correctly calculate charge cards into the score. I thought only TU98 didnt correctly calculate charge cards as they have no credit limit defined.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My Vantage score today is 744 {up from last years check by 80 pts}, so I think its the scoring system at citi {well i hope}&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If I ever find the Peasant that made up this scoring module.....well God Help him....&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks guys&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2011 23:52:35 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2011-03-06T23:52:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Credit Reports, Charge card calcs, where is the correct scoring system "place"</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Credit-Reports-Charge-card-calcs-where-is-the-correct-scoring/m-p/860582#M149513</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hey Chaps,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;OK so I have the citi identity moniter credit report system that downloads my scores and reports every month for me to see.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So my scores went down by approx 50 to 60 points out of nowhere in 1 month. Last month my Trans Union was 720 this month its 650&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Now I got approved for 2 Amex charge cards in dec 2010 and have been using them, my history is perfect for all accounts for years as in no missed payments hence the 720 score. I got a new lease bmw in dec 2010 too.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Questions"&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;- Does the citi credit score system consider charge cards a credit revolver card hence hurting my score? If so im going to cancel this bringer of fake bad news&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;-where can I get the actual real scores that correctly calculate charge cards into the score. I thought only TU98 didnt correctly calculate charge cards as they have no credit limit defined.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My Vantage score today is 744 {up from last years check by 80 pts}, so I think its the scoring system at citi {well i hope}&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If I ever find the Peasant that made up this scoring module.....well God Help him....&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks guys&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2011 23:52:35 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-03-06T23:52:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Credit Reports, Charge card calcs, where is the correct scoring system "place"</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Credit-Reports-Charge-card-calcs-where-is-the-correct-scoring/m-p/860770#M149517</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Ignore all of those scores. None of them are FICO scores and lenders don't use them.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The score from Citi's service is a FAKO called a PLUS which runs on a scale of 350-830 (or maybe to 850), IIRC. The VantageScore (e.g. from TrueCredit or CreditKarma) is a FAKO that runs on a scale from 501-990. Each calculate things differently from each other and none of them are remotely close to FICO with respect to accuracy.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;PLUS scores (e.g. Citi, CCT, and others) seem to factor my Amex into util. I ignore the score anyway.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The TU version on myFICO.com is a TU98 as you mentioned and it factors in the high balance unlike later versions. You can't purchase any TU FICO anywhere that factors out charge cards, though a lender can provide it for you if they pull TU04 or later. The EQ FICO version on here correctly factors out charge cards per util.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 04:10:47 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>llecs</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-03-07T04:10:47Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Credit Reports, Charge card calcs, where is the correct scoring system "place"</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Credit-Reports-Charge-card-calcs-where-is-the-correct-scoring/m-p/861450#M149534</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you very much!!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 22:11:01 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-03-07T22:11:01Z</dc:date>
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