topic Re: Child Support in General Credit Topics

Child Support

Anonymous — Sun, 01 Apr 2007 20:56:03 GMT

I owe back child support, however, I pay $160 a month towards it and $800 a month for current support. I have not not been even a day late for the last year. I have even paid more then the $160 some months towards the arears. But no matter, it still shows as delinquent, is there anything I can do?

Thanks to my ex, I'm about to have a child support judgme...

Anonymous — Mon, 02 Apr 2007 05:53:13 GMT

Thanks to my ex, I'm about to have a child support judgment put on my credit report too. I'm sure I'm about to have my FICO nuked right back to the Stone Age.

Which really, REALLY makes me mad as heck, because, amazingly enough, two of my three FICOs were actually improved over their levels six months ago...one by almost 80 points! Imagine that...I saw that, almost had a coronary from astonishment.

Then I opened my mailbox and in it was a letter from the county agency saying they were going to enter the judgment on my credit report with all three agencies. In my case, I don't actually owe any back child support, but it doesn't matter...once a judgment hits my FICO, it's toast.

I hope these county child support people die of bone cancer in a place where painkillers are inaccessible...

Message Edited by TheNewWorldMan on 04-01-2007 10:53 PM

Re: Child Support

Anonymous — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 06:25:35 GMT

I had 5 judgements entered for back child support from 1998 to 2000. I was making payments and my tax returns were taken until 2005 when the last $375 was paid. the judgements were due to fall off over the past 2 years with the last one coming off in January of 2007. Now all five judgements are showing as "PAID TAX LIENS" and won't come off until 2012. Anything I can do about this???

Skip

Re: Child Support

mooshi — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 13:56:59 GMT

I had this issue happen years ago. Hopefully you have proof that you have been paying the child support via check stubs and have not been paying in cash. I got hit for two years of back child support when it was supposed to be one year back child support.

Your best bet is to get a good Child Support Attorney and do NOT work with the Attorney General's office. They lost my DNA testing and other paper work and if you don't have copies for all that stuff too bad.

I eventually took full custody of my son and now I don't have to pay child support, but it does cost more to raise to raise a child, especially as a single parent.

I hope this helps!

Good luck.

Re: Child Support

Anonymous — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:55:01 GMT

The whole child support system as it exists in America is a socialist redistribution of the wealth scheme. It's also blatantly discriminatory toward men, and in violation of both the Constitution and international treaties to which the United States is a signatory.

I've always thought men in America who pay child support should file a class-action lawsuit charging sex discrimination, and also file a case with the United Nations Human Rights Commission (as gender discrimination is banned by international treaty). Not that the jackbooted thugs now running the American Empire would pay attention to anything the U.N. says, but to be censured like that would be a major embarrassment for America.

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Anonymous — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 05:38:27 GMT

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Re: Child Support

Anonymous — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:07:55 GMT

@DEADBEATS_ARE_THIEVES wrote:
How is it discrimination? Women have to pay child support too.

Sure they do, in theory. In practice, it's a rarity. Trying to get custody of a child as a man is like trying to vote as a minority in the Old South: yeah, technically you had the right, but just try and register and cast a ballot and see how far you'd get.

Child support is a male tax. It's no different from the Taliban, only in reverse. It's gender discrimination, and it has no place in a democratic society. It violates the equal protection clause of the Constitution.

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Anonymous — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 05:38:42 GMT

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Re: Child Support

Anonymous — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:22:40 GMT

@DEADBEATS_ARE_THIEVES wrote:
LOL. I think you're going a bit overboard there. Do a search of your states domestic relations child support liens. You'll see it's not so rare anymore. Regardless, why wouldn't a man want to provide financial support for his children? I'm a guy btw who is a custodial parent receiving child support garnished from the mothers income.

Well then, you must have friends in high places. Congratulations.

I have no problem providing support for my child. I do have a problem with supporting my ex's twelve hour a day video game habit (she is unemployed by choice), as well as with Soviet-style government agencies putting judgments on my credit report.

If I wanted to live under a soviet system, I'd move to Cuba--at least I'd get free health care.

Re: Child Support

Anonymous — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:57:14 GMT

SkipS1965 wrote:
I had 5 judgements entered for back child support from 1998 to 2000. I was making payments and my tax returns were taken until 2005 when the last $375 was paid. the judgements were due to fall off over the past 2 years with the last one coming off in January of 2007. Now all five judgements are showing as "PAID TAX LIENS" and won't come off until 2012. Anything I can do about this???

Skip

In order for the tax returns to be seized there must be a judgement you have two things on your report. On is a judgement, the other is a satified lien as a result of those judgements, both are indedendant of each other. It just goes to speak of the lenghts that were gone to to collect the arrears support. Tax liens stay on the report for 10 years just like BKs. Its kinda like a creditor reporting you 180 days past due, then it goes to collections. They are two very different things and both are valid entries

Re: Child Support

mooshi — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:04:27 GMT

I am single parent and male. I used to pay my ex-girlfriend child support and she took off one day. I had to go to court and start paying her mother child support due to my son living with them at the time. I now have full custody of my son and my ex has owed me child support since last year and I have yet to see a dime. Life is fair-------right!!!!!!!!

Re: Child Support

Anonymous — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 21:26:24 GMT

Yeah, if I woke up one morning and found a meteor had oblitered the state government here, I'd throw the biggest party my block has ever seen.

Re: Child Support

Anonymous — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 21:30:28 GMT

mooshi wrote:
I am single parent and male. I used to pay my ex-girlfriend child support and she took off one day. I had to go to court and start paying her mother child support due to my son living with them at the time. I now have full custody of my son and my ex has owed me child support since last year and I have yet to see a dime. Life is fair-------right!!!!!!!!

If she is under court ordered child support you will find the same derog info on her credit report that you find on deadbeat dads' credit report. Its as fair as it can get

Re: Child Support

figaga7 — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 22:04:05 GMT

In 1991, my ex sued me for child support not because I was not paying but because her friends told her that if she did not go through the system, I would stop paying once I got involved with another woman. However, she later realized how ill advised she had been and went back to court to have the child support taken off. (by the way, we both had to be in court for that to happen).

For a while, it was been reported on my credit files as 'paid as agreed'; however, it recently appeared on my files as 'paid after collection' this of course is hurting my FICO score. Has any one ever had this experince? And if so, how do I go about having this removed from my files? help!!

Re: Child Support

Anonymous — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 09:55:15 GMT

You'd have an easier time moving the Earth from its orbit than getting a government agency to correct something it did wrong...especially when it has Soviet-like powers like the child support agencies.

There was a guy I went to school with who was hit up for around $22,000 in back child support. They hounded him, took away his passport, his driver's license. They were about to put him in jail for contempt. He managed to escape them, though. One night before they were going to take him to jail, he took out his .357, loaded it, put the barrel in his mouth and pulled the trigger.

Yeah, that was really in a child's best interest, hounding the father to suicide. Good job there, folks. I'm sure the Governor gave them a medal for that one. And if there's a Hell, I hope they burn there...every last one of them.

This is soooo not my country anymore.

Message Edited by TheNewWorldMan on 04-19-2007 02:55 AM

Re: Child Support

Anonymous — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 11:34:36 GMT

That's horrible that he felt the need to do that. I do feel for him and that he felt his only option was suicide. However, it's not the government's fault that he didn't pay his child support and was facing jail time and it's certainly not the government's fault that he committed suicide. He made that decision, obviously not thinking about the impact on his loved ones, especially his poor, innocent child. Had he paid his child support all along, or even some of it, he wouldn't have been put into a situation where he felt as though he had to take his own life to get out of it. The governmental agencies were hounding him because he wasn't satisfying his obligations to his child, not to them.

I do feel bad for parents that have to pay child support and then use whatever's left over to keep themselves afloat, particularly those who barely get by as it is. My brother has to pay support and used to moan about it every day of the week. Now, he realizes that it's the only thing keeping his child fed some days - literally - so he's not as apt to complain and even gives money to his ex-wife on the side when he knows his son is without something. He gets no "credit" for this from the agencies but he doesn't care because because he knows his child has what he needs which is most important.

If I didn't have my child in my care, how could I be upset by paying support because afterall I did bring her into this world and it's my responsibility to her, not anyone else. I would hate to think that I would be a deadbeat and not pay my support and her live without the things that she wants as a little girl, or worse, that she may not have the things she really needs.

I want more for my daughter than I ever dreamed of having as a child. That's why I am working hard on getting my credit as near perfect as I can. I want to pass the most important things in life on down to her - the sense of personal responsibility and the importance of a good credit history.

Re: Child Support

Anonymous — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:21:28 GMT

HouseHunter wrote:
That's horrible that he felt the need to do that. I do feel for him and that he felt his only option was suicide. However, it's not the government's fault that he didn't pay his child support and was facing jail time and it's certainly not the government's fault that he committed suicide. He made that decision, obviously not thinking about the impact on his loved ones, especially his poor, innocent child. Had he paid his child support all along, or even some of it, he wouldn't have been put into a situation where he felt as though he had to take his own life to get out of it. The governmental agencies were hounding him because he wasn't satisfying his obligations to his child, not to them.

I do feel bad for parents that have to pay child support and then use whatever's left over to keep themselves afloat, particularly those who barely get by as it is. My brother has to pay support and used to moan about it every day of the week. Now, he realizes that it's the only thing keeping his child fed some days - literally - so he's not as apt to complain and even gives money to his ex-wife on the side when he knows his son is without something. He gets no "credit" for this from the agencies but he doesn't care because because he knows his child has what he needs which is most important.

If I didn't have my child in my care, how could I be upset by paying support because afterall I did bring her into this world and it's my responsibility to her, not anyone else. I would hate to think that I would be a deadbeat and not pay my support and her live without the things that she wants as a little girl, or worse, that she may not have the things she really needs.

I want more for my daughter than I ever dreamed of having as a child. That's why I am working hard on getting my credit as near perfect as I can. I want to pass the most important things in life on down to her - the sense of personal responsibility and the importance of a good credit history.

Couldn't have put it better myself

Re: Child Support

Anonymous — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 19:26:35 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:
That's horrible that he felt the need to do that. I do feel for him and that he felt his only option was suicide. However, it's not the government's fault that he didn't pay his child support and was facing jail time and it's certainly not the government's fault that he committed suicide. He made that decision, obviously not thinking about the impact on his loved ones, especially his poor, innocent child. Had he paid his child support all along, or even some of it, he wouldn't have been put into a situation where he felt as though he had to take his own life to get out of it. The governmental agencies were hounding him because he wasn't satisfying his obligations to his child, not to them.

All I know is if these communist predators had left my friend alone for, oh, even four to six months, he would have been able to get back on his feet and negotiate some kind of settlement. Maybe the government should have been thinking of what was best for the child, which did NOT include destroying the father. And I'm not saying he made no mistakes...he did, although I think he was as much a victim of circumstance as of his bad decisions. A couple business deals that would have netted him around $10,000 fell through due to circumstances beyond his control. But he wouldn't have had the arrears in the first place (or at least not nearly as much) if he'd filed the paperwork (which is a real pain in the rear) reporting he was disabled and out of work.

But I understand why he did what he did. It was his only way to escape the Amerikan Empire (since they took his passport away). Myself, I'd have been more imaginative...if millions of illegal immigrants can sneak into the country, I could find a way to get out of it. I wouldn't be the first person to have to leave a country like that to escape communism--a couple in East Germany actually built their own hot-air balloon in their basement to cross over the Berlin Wall back in the Seventies. A roommate of mine in college saw his father shot dead in front of his eyes when he escaped the fall of South Vietnam, but he got out.

Myself, I'm hoping it doesn't come to that. So far my child support burden is manageable (though they probably will report me this month for being one month behind). But if push came to shove, I'd be gone too...just via a 747, not a .357.

Re: Child Support

Anonymous — Fri, 20 Apr 2007 02:04:32 GMT

NewWorld,

You'll like these two:

One case where we were representing father the mother had primary custody and was ordered to pay the father child support. [Sure it wasn't a lot, only about $150 per month, but still........]

Another case, a father I was representing was over $10,000 behind in his child support support. He called one morning about 9:00 a.m. because he just had his driver's license taken away for the delinquent support. By 10:30 a.m. that same morning I had his license back without him paying any additional money.

So, it can work out a person just has to know what to do (I guess very similar to improving credit).

Re: Child Support

Anonymous — Fri, 20 Apr 2007 07:12:13 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:
NewWorld,
You'll like these two:
One case where we were representing father the mother had primary custody and was ordered to pay the father child support. [Sure it wasn't a lot, only about $150 per month, but still........]
Another case, a father I was representing was over $10,000 behind in his child support support. He called one morning about 9:00 a.m. because he just had his driver's license taken away for the delinquent support. By 10:30 a.m. that same morning I had his license back without him paying any additional money.
So, it can work out a person just has to know what to do (I guess very similar to improving credit).

What did you do, drop a nuke on them or something?

There's nothing an ordinary person like me can do with these agencies. They have all the guns of the government behind them, and to do anything you have to go through all their expensive courts and procedures and whatnot.

There's a lot of frustration out there...I wouldn't be surprised if one day the system ticks off the wrong person and some of these bureaucrats and whatnot wake up around one million Fahrenheit. Only way change is ever going to happen in the family law system.