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    <title>topic Re: Cap One switching from Credit Tracker in General Credit Topics</title>
    <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Cap-One-switching-from-Credit-Tracker/m-p/4495232#M225840</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;I'm honestly curious, who are the many regarding wild fluctuations in VS not seen in FICO? &amp;nbsp;To be clear on credit.com, we're talking the VS 3.0 listed under Additional Scores rather than the main Experian National Equivalency Score they toss up in the top left corner by default for some unknown reason?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Before my stupid issue on TU, my scores were within 3 points of each other on VS 3.0, that's an order of magnitude difference compared to FICO models (700 EQ Beacon 5.0, 731 TU Classic 04 for example), and FICO has tacitly acknowledged the lender complaints about score variation between CRA's as legitimate.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I've been reading these forums for a while, the vast majority of people assuming consistent information between the files to be far closer in score on VS 3.0 than FICO 98 through FICO 8, and FICO 9 which was supposed to address that is absurdly different in my case unless the inquiry calculation as we know it has been completely thrown out for FICO 9 and that's the only possible way I can explain that discrepancy.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;@TT: huh that's new; they used to have EX 04 Bankcard (Risk Model v3) now looks like EX 02 Bankcard and EX 04 Classic... which is news to me anyway. &amp;nbsp;Don't get me started on Bankcard scores, there's serious variation there on pretty standard things in the algorithm (like your aforementioned number of tradelines with balances, and like you I agree it's a stupid archaic measurement).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sun, 13 Mar 2016 04:34:08 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Revelate</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2016-03-13T04:34:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Cap One switching from Credit Tracker</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Cap-One-switching-from-Credit-Tracker/m-p/4469316#M224566</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Capital One has been offering its customers "Credit Tracker" which updated once a month using a TransUnion "New Account" model.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It just announced that it's switching to providing weekly updates using the TransUnion Vantage 3.0 model:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;We’re thrilled to announce that we’re giving Capital One® Credit Tracker a big makeover. Over the next few weeks, Credit Tracker will become CreditWise® from Capital One. It’ll still be the same free and easy tool you’re used to, but with a fresh new look and some great upgrades to make your experience even better.&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;Here are the three things you need to know about CreditWise. &lt;/EM&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;EM&gt;1. We’re going to start using the TransUnion® VantageScore® 3.0 scoring model, which may show a different score than you’re used to seeing. Learn more about your score by watching &lt;A href="http://click.capitaloneemail.com/?qs=aa23624cf9a98159bc75ba035900e54e251e557f97b1718e845eb08f7ef06d4c60f657ee8b0b86da" target="_self"&gt;this short video&lt;/A&gt;.&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;2. We’ve crafted a sleek new design that makes CreditWise more intuitive and easier to navigate.&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;EM&gt;3. And we didn’t stop there—your credit profile will be updated once a week instead of just once a month, so you’ll be able to sign in and check for score changes more often.&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;EM&gt;For now, there’s nothing to do but get excited. You’ll start seeing the new CreditWise experience on the banking app and on our website within the next few weeks.&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2016 18:45:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Cap-One-switching-from-Credit-Tracker/m-p/4469316#M224566</guid>
      <dc:creator>SouthJamaica</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-23T18:45:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Cap One switching from Credit Tracker</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Cap-One-switching-from-Credit-Tracker/m-p/4469514#M224568</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;For now, there’s nothing to do but get excited&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'll pass on the getting excited part.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2016 20:05:17 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Cap-One-switching-from-Credit-Tracker/m-p/4469514#M224568</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-23T20:05:17Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Cap One switching from Credit Tracker</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Cap-One-switching-from-Credit-Tracker/m-p/4469632#M224572</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;What is the main reason behind so few true FICO scores? Is it simply a matter of cost to the companies? I know a few use it, but considering it's the most widely used model, you'd think more companies and servies would use it. (I think this every time I see a CK commercial.)&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2016 21:07:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Cap-One-switching-from-Credit-Tracker/m-p/4469632#M224572</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-23T21:07:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Capital One changing Credit tracker to Credit Wise</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Cap-One-switching-from-Credit-Tracker/m-p/4469776#M224583</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Capital one is changing credit tracker to&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;CreditWise and the score is calculated using the TransUnion Vantage 3.0 model&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Just got the email, so its just another fako right?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2016 22:16:45 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Cap-One-switching-from-Credit-Tracker/m-p/4469776#M224583</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-23T22:16:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Capital One changing Credit tracker to Credit Wise</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Cap-One-switching-from-Credit-Tracker/m-p/4469779#M224584</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Yes it's the same model as Credit Karma. So yes another FAKO&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2016 22:18:10 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Cap-One-switching-from-Credit-Tracker/m-p/4469779#M224584</guid>
      <dc:creator>Broke_Triathlete</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-23T22:18:10Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Capital One changing Credit tracker to Credit Wise</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Cap-One-switching-from-Credit-Tracker/m-p/4469791#M224585</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;How hard is it to offer a "true" FICO score???&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;most all lenders provide them 4 free!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2016 22:25:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Cap-One-switching-from-Credit-Tracker/m-p/4469791#M224585</guid>
      <dc:creator>L-TWT</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-23T22:25:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Capital One changing Credit tracker to Credit Wise</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Cap-One-switching-from-Credit-Tracker/m-p/4469824#M224586</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I received that email today as well. &amp;nbsp;What I don't get is that they offer scores from a model they say they don't use for decision making. &amp;nbsp;What's the purpose of providing a score that consumers can't even gauge their worthiness with you, the lender providing said score? &amp;nbsp;Makes no sense to me...&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2016 22:55:06 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Cap-One-switching-from-Credit-Tracker/m-p/4469824#M224586</guid>
      <dc:creator>Loquat</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-23T22:55:06Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Capital One changing Credit tracker to Credit Wise</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Cap-One-switching-from-Credit-Tracker/m-p/4469940#M224587</link>
      <description>I prefer FAKO's to the real credit scores. The real credit scores aren't as nice looking as FAKO's. It placates me.</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2016 00:10:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Cap-One-switching-from-Credit-Tracker/m-p/4469940#M224587</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-24T00:10:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Capital One changing Credit tracker to Credit Wise</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Cap-One-switching-from-Credit-Tracker/m-p/4469945#M224588</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;I prefer FAKO's to the real credit scores. The real credit scores aren't as nice looking as FAKO's. It placates me.&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I like the cold, hard truth. &amp;nbsp;If my scores suck, fine, tell me and let me deal with what's bringing them down. &amp;nbsp;I don't want someone to pacify me...&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2016 00:14:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Cap-One-switching-from-Credit-Tracker/m-p/4469945#M224588</guid>
      <dc:creator>Loquat</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-24T00:14:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Capital One changing Credit tracker to Credit Wise</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Cap-One-switching-from-Credit-Tracker/m-p/4469958#M224589</link>
      <description>guess my score with cap1 will sink to 601 hahaha.</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2016 00:21:07 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Cap-One-switching-from-Credit-Tracker/m-p/4469958#M224589</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-24T00:21:07Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Capital One changing Credit tracker to Credit Wise</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Cap-One-switching-from-Credit-Tracker/m-p/4469968#M224590</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;So they went from the old, crappy CK score to the new, crappy CK score. Awesome.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2016 00:25:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Cap-One-switching-from-Credit-Tracker/m-p/4469968#M224590</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-24T00:25:03Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Capital One changing Credit tracker to Credit Wise</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Cap-One-switching-from-Credit-Tracker/m-p/4470047#M224591</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;I prefer FAKO's to the real credit scores. The real credit scores aren't as nice looking as FAKO's. It placates me.&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;img id="smileylol" class="emoticon emoticon-smileylol" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-lol.gif" alt="Smiley LOL" title="Smiley LOL" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2016 01:05:53 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Cap-One-switching-from-Credit-Tracker/m-p/4470047#M224591</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-24T01:05:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Capital One changing Credit tracker to Credit Wise</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Cap-One-switching-from-Credit-Tracker/m-p/4470258#M224596</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Well, CK has my score right at 100 points higher than Cap1 has me now, so I guess I'll feel a little better lol.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My real TU FICO score is about thirty five points lower than my CK score, but 65 higher than what Cap1 is currently showing me so this will be closer at least I suppose. I get all three real scores from real cards so still no matter though.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2016 03:37:17 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Cap-One-switching-from-Credit-Tracker/m-p/4470258#M224596</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-24T03:37:17Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Capital One changing Credit tracker to Credit Wise</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Cap-One-switching-from-Credit-Tracker/m-p/4470533#M224605</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I am glad they did this. &amp;nbsp;With their credit tracker my scores actually fell 30 points for opening a new credit card with my highest balance yet. &amp;nbsp;Thought having a new credit card with your personal highest balance would improve your score.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2016 10:09:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Cap-One-switching-from-Credit-Tracker/m-p/4470533#M224605</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-24T10:09:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Capital One changing Credit tracker to Credit Wise</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Cap-One-switching-from-Credit-Tracker/m-p/4470560#M224607</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;So we'll be able to see&amp;nbsp;that worthless score more often.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Sweet.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2016 11:41:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Cap-One-switching-from-Credit-Tracker/m-p/4470560#M224607</guid>
      <dc:creator>Rebuilding69</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-24T11:41:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Cap One switching from Credit Tracker</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Cap-One-switching-from-Credit-Tracker/m-p/4470563#M224608</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;For now, there’s nothing to do but get excited&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'll pass on the getting excited part.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;You made me laugh out loud.&amp;nbsp;&lt;img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2016 11:47:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Cap-One-switching-from-Credit-Tracker/m-p/4470563#M224608</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-24T11:47:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Cap One switching from Credit Tracker</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Cap-One-switching-from-Credit-Tracker/m-p/4470800#M224620</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Well it's once a week.&amp;nbsp; At least I can see a trend on either increasing or decreasing.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2016 15:45:44 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Cap-One-switching-from-Credit-Tracker/m-p/4470800#M224620</guid>
      <dc:creator>ccpat</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-24T15:45:44Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Capital One- included FICO</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Cap-One-switching-from-Credit-Tracker/m-p/4470811#M224623</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Was Cap1 originally giving FICO8? Just received this email-&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;"&lt;SPAN&gt;We’re thrilled to announce that we’re giving Capital&amp;nbsp;One&lt;/SPAN&gt;®&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;Credit Tracker a big makeover. Over the next few weeks, Credit Tracker will become CreditWise&lt;/SPAN&gt;®&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;from Capital&amp;nbsp;One. It’ll still be the same free and easy tool you’re used to, but with a fresh new look and some great upgrades to make your experience even better.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Here are the three things you need to know about CreditWise.&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;We’re going to start using the TransUnion®&amp;nbsp;VantageScore®&amp;nbsp;3.0 scoring model, "&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2016 15:51:56 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-24T15:51:56Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Capital One- included FICO</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Cap-One-switching-from-Credit-Tracker/m-p/4470816#M224624</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Both old score and new score are FAKO so don't get excited Lol&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;There's also a thread on this in&lt;STRIKE&gt; scoring&lt;/STRIKE&gt;&amp;nbsp; General forum&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2016 15:57:06 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Cap-One-switching-from-Credit-Tracker/m-p/4470816#M224624</guid>
      <dc:creator>myjourney</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-24T15:57:06Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Capital One- included FICO</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Cap-One-switching-from-Credit-Tracker/m-p/4470824#M224625</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;That sounds like an exciting change - I need to keep an eye open for that e-mail! Hopefully it will make their current tracker a little more reliable&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2016 15:57:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Cap-One-switching-from-Credit-Tracker/m-p/4470824#M224625</guid>
      <dc:creator>Chezy1025</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-24T15:57:30Z</dc:date>
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