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    <title>topic Re: Verizon Hard Check or Soft Check?? in General Credit Topics</title>
    <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Verizon-Hard-Check-or-Soft-Check/m-p/4933728#M243011</link>
    <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;This is one reason I still use Straight Talk* (no-contract, $45.00/month or $43.73 auto-pay) as my cell provider; another reason is that, even though the major mobile providers HP your reports, they don't report your payment history/activity to the CRA's unless you've fallen behind. Seems a waste of a perfectly good HP to me.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;*If you're considering Straight Talk, I'd recommend bringing your own phone or buying a new one up front - I bought a new iPhone SE 64GB&amp;nbsp;in February - rather than relying on Straight Talk's pre-packaged phones, which are either older models or are less capable versions of current models.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Tracfone works for me, as talking is the least thing I use my Android phone for - $20 every 3 months to keep the account active &amp;amp; the 180 talk minutes w/carryover of unused minutes is usually more than enough, with an&amp;nbsp;occasional $10 for an extra gigabyte of data.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;And these phone/TV companies can be sneaky. A couple years ago I ordered DirecTV, they wanted my DOB &amp;amp; Soc.Sec.#. I protested, saying I was not app'ing for credit. Rep said the last 4 digits would be enough - it was, for a HP. &lt;img id="smileymad" class="emoticon emoticon-smileymad" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif" alt="Smiley Mad" title="Smiley Mad" /&gt; After the 2 year intro was over &amp;amp; the monthly rate went to $80+/mo. I cancelled. Now I get a dozen broadcast channels by antenna plus internet streaming, more than enough TV for me. &lt;img id="smileywink" class="emoticon emoticon-smileywink" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif" alt="Smiley Wink" title="Smiley Wink" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2017 15:13:18 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>DaveInAZ</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2017-04-28T15:13:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Verizon Hard Check or Soft Check??</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Verizon-Hard-Check-or-Soft-Check/m-p/4738968#M234697</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;ive been getting back different answers from reps in store, other mobile stores and chat reps from verizon. &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;i google it and all the stories i read about hard checks are 2 years old. &amp;nbsp;so ill ask here. &amp;nbsp; is it a hard check or soft check??&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2016 21:26:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Verizon-Hard-Check-or-Soft-Check/m-p/4738968#M234697</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-09-04T21:26:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Verizon Hard Check or Soft Check??</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Verizon-Hard-Check-or-Soft-Check/m-p/4738998#M234702</link>
      <description>Hard Pull.</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2016 22:22:33 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-09-04T22:22:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Verizon Hard Check or Soft Check??</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Verizon-Hard-Check-or-Soft-Check/m-p/4739055#M234706</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Definitely a hard pull.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2016 23:31:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Verizon-Hard-Check-or-Soft-Check/m-p/4739055#M234706</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-09-04T23:31:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Verizon Hard Check or Soft Check??</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Verizon-Hard-Check-or-Soft-Check/m-p/4739070#M234707</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;thanks. &amp;nbsp;i literally asked a verizon rep yesterday. &amp;nbsp;they said soft. &amp;nbsp;asked a rep on chat thru the verizon website &amp;nbsp; they said soft. &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;asked another online rep &amp;nbsp;they said hard check. &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;do you guys know who they pull? &amp;nbsp;i checked yesterday and it hasnt popped up on my report.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2016 23:52:21 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Verizon-Hard-Check-or-Soft-Check/m-p/4739070#M234707</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-09-04T23:52:21Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Verizon Hard Check or Soft Check??</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Verizon-Hard-Check-or-Soft-Check/m-p/4739160#M234712</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;thanks. &amp;nbsp;i literally asked a verizon rep yesterday. &amp;nbsp;they said soft. &amp;nbsp;asked a rep on chat thru the verizon website &amp;nbsp; they said soft. &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;asked another online rep &amp;nbsp;they said hard check. &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;do you guys know who they pull? &amp;nbsp;i checked yesterday and it hasnt popped up on my report.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;It showed up on my Equifax report.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2016 01:34:18 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Verizon-Hard-Check-or-Soft-Check/m-p/4739160#M234712</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-09-05T01:34:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Verizon Hard Check or Soft Check??</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Verizon-Hard-Check-or-Soft-Check/m-p/4739174#M234714</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;i checked at the verizon store yesterday and hasnt showed up yet. &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; when i went to the best buy store &amp;nbsp;it said i had to check again which i did, but this time it wasnt allowed and it gave a number. &amp;nbsp; pretty much i had to call and verify who i was. &amp;nbsp; ( does that count as a pull??)&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2016 01:53:51 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Verizon-Hard-Check-or-Soft-Check/m-p/4739174#M234714</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-09-05T01:53:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Verizon Hard Check or Soft Check??</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Verizon-Hard-Check-or-Soft-Check/m-p/4739294#M234716</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;i checked at the verizon store yesterday and hasnt showed up yet. &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; when i went to the best buy store &amp;nbsp;it said i had to check again which i did, but this time it wasnt allowed and it gave a number. &amp;nbsp; pretty much i had to call and verify who i was. &amp;nbsp; ( does that count as a pull??)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;That's what I did when I got my iPhone back in January. It didn't show as an inquiry until a couple of weeks.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Who knows, tho? Perhaps they changed it in the last nine months?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2016 04:05:43 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Verizon-Hard-Check-or-Soft-Check/m-p/4739294#M234716</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-09-05T04:05:43Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Verizon Hard Check or Soft Check??</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Verizon-Hard-Check-or-Soft-Check/m-p/4739313#M234718</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;asked a rep on chat thru the verizon website &amp;nbsp; they said soft. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Couldn't you screen shot that and then if it does end up being a hard pull..... dispute it under the reason that you were promised it was a soft pull?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2016 04:29:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Verizon-Hard-Check-or-Soft-Check/m-p/4739313#M234718</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-09-05T04:29:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Verizon Hard Check or Soft Check??</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Verizon-Hard-Check-or-Soft-Check/m-p/4739342#M234719</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;There might be a difference if it's your first line with them vs subsequent lines/just adding a phone. It was a HP for me to open my very first (two) line(s) of service (ever) with them.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2016 05:35:57 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Verizon-Hard-Check-or-Soft-Check/m-p/4739342#M234719</guid>
      <dc:creator>DantGwyrdd</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-09-05T05:35:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Verizon Hard Check or Soft Check??</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Verizon-Hard-Check-or-Soft-Check/m-p/4739357#M234720</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/530726"&gt;@DantGwyrdd&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;There might be a difference if it's your first line with them vs subsequent lines/just adding a phone. It was a HP for me to open my very first (two) line(s) of service (ever) with them.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;+1&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Excellent point.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2016 06:11:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Verizon-Hard-Check-or-Soft-Check/m-p/4739357#M234720</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-09-05T06:11:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Verizon Hard Check or Soft Check??</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Verizon-Hard-Check-or-Soft-Check/m-p/4739454#M234722</link>
      <description>When I got ours, back 18 months ago, it was a soft.&lt;BR /&gt;Just added a line with no pull...as far as I can tell ..</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2016 13:11:47 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Verizon-Hard-Check-or-Soft-Check/m-p/4739454#M234722</guid>
      <dc:creator>cuthatcard</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-09-05T13:11:47Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Verizon Hard Check or Soft Check??</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Verizon-Hard-Check-or-Soft-Check/m-p/4739647#M234726</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I'm not certain on the additional line but I've had three accounts with Verizon:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Verizon Internet&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Verizon Wireless&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Verizion Business&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;3 HP's, all on EQ.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Ultimately if you want the service the inquiry is trivial so I wouldn't worry about it unless you have something like a mortgage coming up in the next year and you're playing in the middle tiers like I was (and somewhat&amp;nbsp;annoyed at VZ as a result).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Also just because a CSR says it's so, isn't grounds for a dispute historically... your making the application is permissible purpose and the CSR excuse is akin to the dog ate my homework unfortunately.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2016 17:20:38 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Verizon-Hard-Check-or-Soft-Check/m-p/4739647#M234726</guid>
      <dc:creator>Revelate</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-09-05T17:20:38Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Verizon Hard Check or Soft Check??</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Verizon-Hard-Check-or-Soft-Check/m-p/4740011#M234757</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;It was a hard pull for me when I opened up my account. There was no pull in financing our new phones a year later.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2016 00:49:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Verizon-Hard-Check-or-Soft-Check/m-p/4740011#M234757</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-09-06T00:49:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Verizon Hard Check or Soft Check??</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Verizon-Hard-Check-or-Soft-Check/m-p/4740690#M234798</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Update. &amp;nbsp;ended up being an HP. not surprising. &amp;nbsp;I did tear them a new one over the phone about instore and chat reps telling me it was a soft pull. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2016 23:20:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Verizon-Hard-Check-or-Soft-Check/m-p/4740690#M234798</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-09-06T23:20:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Verizon Hard Check or Soft Check??</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Verizon-Hard-Check-or-Soft-Check/m-p/4932825#M242963</link>
      <description>Had this same experience with Verizon. Talked to 4 different reps (2 via chat, one on the phone, and one in person) who all insisted they did a soft credit pull. I saved screen shots from the chat. Now I have a hard inquiry from Verizon on my Equifax report. I called Verizon and was told there's nothing they can do. I'm so pissed. How can they just straight up lie? I will try disputing it with Equifax but I'm not holding my breath.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2017 15:51:32 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-04-27T15:51:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Verizon Hard Check or Soft Check??</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Verizon-Hard-Check-or-Soft-Check/m-p/4932829#M242964</link>
      <description>All my Verizon activities have been HPs. Never an SP. As to the Reps ... common we all know they are either uniformed or don't really have a clue.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2017 15:55:34 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-04-27T15:55:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Verizon Hard Check or Soft Check??</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Verizon-Hard-Check-or-Soft-Check/m-p/4932897#M242970</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Contract ended a few months ago. What about renewing a new 2 yr contract when the phone I want comes next month. No lates.The original HP fell off. SP? Or no pull.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2017 17:07:29 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>FireMedic1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-04-27T17:07:29Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Verizon Hard Check or Soft Check??</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Verizon-Hard-Check-or-Soft-Check/m-p/4933006#M242976</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Same experience with me they all say soft pull and they end up doing a hp. I told the store manager this is not correct she said she apologized and all their meaterial tells them its a soft pull and i told them they need to change that because its a lie and they are engaging in deceptive business practices what if I was currently in the process of buying a home your dumb "misinformation" would have cost me money over the period of a 30 year loan. I also submitted a BBB report on them the executive office contacted me I told them the same thing. She offered to close my account for me to switch with NO FEEs. I ended up getting 50 bucks for it. Eh. Still though they shouldnt do this I want to be able to make my own decision if I want this to be a hard inquiry on my credit or not. Not be lied to.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2017 18:41:34 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Gatito</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-04-27T18:41:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Verizon Hard Check or Soft Check??</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Verizon-Hard-Check-or-Soft-Check/m-p/4933019#M242978</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;This is one reason I still use Straight Talk* (no-contract, $45.00/month or $43.73 auto-pay) as my cell provider; another reason is that, even though the major mobile providers HP your reports, they don't report your payment history/activity to the CRA's unless you've fallen behind. Seems a waste of a perfectly good HP to me.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;*If you're considering Straight Talk, I'd recommend bringing your own phone or buying a new one up front - I bought a new iPhone SE 64GB&amp;nbsp;in February - rather than relying on Straight Talk's pre-packaged phones, which are either older models or are less capable versions of current models.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2017 19:02:44 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-04-27T19:02:44Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Verizon Hard Check or Soft Check??</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Verizon-Hard-Check-or-Soft-Check/m-p/4933615#M243008</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;This is one reason I still use Straight Talk* (no-contract, $45.00/month or $43.73 auto-pay) as my cell provider; another reason is that, even though the major mobile providers HP your reports, they don't report your payment history/activity to the CRA's unless you've fallen behind. Seems a waste of a perfectly good HP to me.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;*If you're considering Straight Talk, I'd recommend bringing your own phone or buying a new one up front - I bought a new iPhone SE 64GB&amp;nbsp;in February - rather than relying on Straight Talk's pre-packaged phones, which are either older models or are less capable versions of current models.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Interestingly enough, they used to report as a tradeline back circa 2000... then for some reason that all stopped at once. &amp;nbsp;I don't recall the reasoning for it other than it was stated as not being an actual credit account or who complained necessarily.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2017 13:07:57 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Revelate</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-04-28T13:07:57Z</dc:date>
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