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    <title>topic Re: Effect of Foreclosure in General Credit Topics</title>
    <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Effect-of-Foreclosure/m-p/5279723#M262724</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;When the primary mortgage was foreclosed, how was the HELOC balance/status resolved?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Was it eventually paid, or does it remain open with a balance?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;As for exclusion of the reporting of a foreclosure, a loan foreclosure is not a specific adverse item of information that has its own, specific exclusion provisions under FCRA 605(a).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Section 605(a) has four subparagraphs that define exclusion provisions for BK, tax liens, judgments, and collections/charge-offs.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Any adverse item of information that is not specifically provided for under subsections (1)-(4) is covered under the catch-all provisions of subsection (5), which sets the exclusion date for any other adverse item of information as being no later than 7 years after the occurence of that adverse item.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The exclusion of a foreclosure would thus&amp;nbsp; be no later than 7 years from the date of the foreclosure, with the exception that if the foreclosure was also considered as a charge to profit and loss&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;U&gt; or its equivalent&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;, then the exclusion period would fall under subsection 605(a)(4) at no later than 7 years plus 180 days from the DOFD.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The devil is thus in the details of whether the foreclosure also qualifies as being equivalent to a charge to profit and loss.&amp;nbsp; That determination would vary depending upon the specific facts of your given situation.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Note that what is reported in your payment history profile does not govern the DOFD.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Creditors can omit reporting for certain months, or delay reporitng of derogs.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The definition of DOFD, as provided under FCRA 605(c), is that a new date of initial delinquency is set only when an account that was delinquent is brought back into good-standing, and then a new first delinquency occurs.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Avoiding reporting after an earlier reporting of delinquency does not reset the DOFD, as the account was not actually returned to good-standing under your account agreement.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2018 23:57:26 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>RobertEG</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2018-06-23T23:57:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Effect of Foreclosure</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Effect-of-Foreclosure/m-p/5277568#M262696</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;After Foreclosure 3 scores 690/678/653 ...the Foreclosure only appears on the 653 Credit Score.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My question is for drop off dates- I have a main mortgage and a HOLEC so i avoided PMI&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;HELOC first DOFD is 5/2016 and goes to 150+ days late until 11/2016...then shows as ok for 12/16 ( i did not make any payments), loan was then sold to another lender and starts at 150+ late on 3/2017 ...this is the same loan just transferred, but is hurting my score bad as it shows as 3 loans (2 HELOCS and Main Mortgage) 150+ late....&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Now the main mortgage DOFD is 6/2016 and goes to 150+ days late, shows foreclosure as 4/2017, then goes to 150+ late again, then goes back to foreclosure statues 2/2018 to present...Does it drop off at DOFD or the foreclosure date? Is there a way to get only 1 HELOC to report and not have 2 different companies hurting my score? im afraid if the loan keeps getting re-sold, then they will all show as 150+ and hurt me even more&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;thanks&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2018 01:22:04 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>taggl00</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-06-21T01:22:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Effect of Foreclosure</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Effect-of-Foreclosure/m-p/5279723#M262724</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;When the primary mortgage was foreclosed, how was the HELOC balance/status resolved?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Was it eventually paid, or does it remain open with a balance?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;As for exclusion of the reporting of a foreclosure, a loan foreclosure is not a specific adverse item of information that has its own, specific exclusion provisions under FCRA 605(a).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Section 605(a) has four subparagraphs that define exclusion provisions for BK, tax liens, judgments, and collections/charge-offs.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Any adverse item of information that is not specifically provided for under subsections (1)-(4) is covered under the catch-all provisions of subsection (5), which sets the exclusion date for any other adverse item of information as being no later than 7 years after the occurence of that adverse item.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The exclusion of a foreclosure would thus&amp;nbsp; be no later than 7 years from the date of the foreclosure, with the exception that if the foreclosure was also considered as a charge to profit and loss&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;U&gt; or its equivalent&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;, then the exclusion period would fall under subsection 605(a)(4) at no later than 7 years plus 180 days from the DOFD.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The devil is thus in the details of whether the foreclosure also qualifies as being equivalent to a charge to profit and loss.&amp;nbsp; That determination would vary depending upon the specific facts of your given situation.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Note that what is reported in your payment history profile does not govern the DOFD.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Creditors can omit reporting for certain months, or delay reporitng of derogs.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The definition of DOFD, as provided under FCRA 605(c), is that a new date of initial delinquency is set only when an account that was delinquent is brought back into good-standing, and then a new first delinquency occurs.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Avoiding reporting after an earlier reporting of delinquency does not reset the DOFD, as the account was not actually returned to good-standing under your account agreement.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2018 23:57:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Effect-of-Foreclosure/m-p/5279723#M262724</guid>
      <dc:creator>RobertEG</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-06-23T23:57:26Z</dc:date>
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