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    <title>topic Re: Bye-Bye Experian in General Credit Topics</title>
    <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Bye-Bye-Experian/m-p/37502#M27611</link>
    <description>&lt;DIV&gt;Yes, they are very different.&amp;nbsp; A freeze literally does that.&amp;nbsp; It prevents anyone from pulling your credit unless you authorize them or give them a pin.&amp;nbsp; A fraud alert just lets the creditor know that you may have been a vicitim of fraud and should contact you to verify that you are actually applying.&amp;nbsp; However, in some states the creditor isn't obligated to call.&amp;nbsp; And some states, like Georgia, don't even honor Freezes.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 20:27:59 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-07-23T20:27:59Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Bye-Bye Experian</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Bye-Bye-Experian/m-p/37152#M27393</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;I just sent off my CRA security freeze to Experian.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;I did this for two reasons:&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;1)&amp;nbsp; They have been horrible with removing my INACCURATE information (I even have had people at CA say things like, "yeah Experian doesn't really care about getting stuff right...")&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;2)&amp;nbsp; EVERYONE out here in the western US seems to pull from it.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Now, whoever I apply for credit from will have to either just refuse to grant me credit (without the pull) OR pull TU/EQ - WHO HAVE MY ACTUAL CREDIT INFORMATION.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;I don't know how long this post will stay up (for some reason, this tactic is deemed "credit repair") but if a few of you benefit from it, then all the better.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 01:47:41 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-07-23T01:47:41Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Bye-Bye Experian</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Bye-Bye-Experian/m-p/37161#M27399</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;ALEXREDD wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;I just sent off my CRA security freeze to Experian.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;I did this for two reasons:&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;1)&amp;nbsp; They have been horrible with removing my INACCURATE information (I even have had people at CA say things like, "yeah Experian doesn't really care about getting stuff right...")&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;2)&amp;nbsp; EVERYONE out here in the western US seems to pull from it.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Now, whoever I apply for credit from will have to either just refuse to grant me credit (without the pull) OR pull TU/EQ - WHO HAVE MY ACTUAL CREDIT INFORMATION.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;I don't know how long this post will stay up (for some reason, this tactic is deemed "credit repair") but if a few of you benefit from it, then all the better.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;I feel for you! I am currently drafting MOV and ITS letters to EX. Their &lt;EM&gt;arrogance is legendary&lt;/EM&gt;. Don't give up!!!&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 02:23:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Bye-Bye-Experian/m-p/37161#M27399</guid>
      <dc:creator>fused</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-07-23T02:23:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Bye-Bye Experian</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Bye-Bye-Experian/m-p/37172#M27405</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;Maybe that is what I should do to EQ. They seem to be my worst enemy, and it seems everyone here uses EQ.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;EQ is still hold my expired baddies, TU &amp;amp; EX deleted them within the last month or two. I didn't even request it of them, they pulled them because it was time, EX dropped one within the last two or three days.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Eq are hanging on to them for dear lift. I am having to wait for a 30 day investigation for them to drop them, when it plainly states they are due to drop.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;But on the other hand, I guess if I put a freeze on EQ, I wouldn't get any Fico Alerts. Can't win for losing.&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 02:37:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Bye-Bye-Experian/m-p/37172#M27405</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-07-23T02:37:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Bye-Bye Experian</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Bye-Bye-Experian/m-p/37178#M27408</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;My husband has been talking about doing something like this with all 3 bureaus...he heard somekind of advertisement on Dave Ramsey.&amp;nbsp; It's something "lock".&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; It puts a freeze on your reports and whoever offers this service has to call you and get the correct passcode before your credit is ran.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;I think we might do it because after pulling his reports and finding the large # of inquiries (that I'm writing a letter to dispute)&amp;nbsp; I know it has to be a part of the reason his scores are low and it makes it look like we've been desperate about getting credit.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp; In July of 06 we started looking for a new vehicle...he has 7 hard pulls on EQ with Citi pulling twice on the same day and 4 hard pulls on TU with Daimler Chrysler pulling twice on the same day&amp;nbsp; Then in January of this year we looked again and 6 hard pulls through EQ and 4 through TU and 1 through EX.&amp;nbsp; Mind you all of this was done on the same day in July 06 and the same day in Jan 07.&amp;nbsp; Then in April 07 that *)&amp;amp;()&amp;amp;) CA that we've been dealing with made a hard pull and on the same day they did it we got 9 other hard pulls...multiples from Capital one, credco, credit plus, FAC, FA Credco, etc.&amp;nbsp; I know he didn't apply for a credit line in April ~ we had just started trying to repair our credit and knew his was crappy ...so why apply??&amp;nbsp; This stuff is refreakindiculous!!&amp;nbsp; I know the ones in July of 06 should not affect his report any longer because it's been a year but good God almighty it sure looks bad!&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;So if anyone else has done this let me know...I'd like to hear the pros and cons!&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 02:49:42 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Bye-Bye-Experian/m-p/37178#M27408</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-07-23T02:49:42Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Bye-Bye Experian</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Bye-Bye-Experian/m-p/37199#M27417</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;I may be wrong but I believe that any creditor that is on your CR can pull at any time. A freeze only affects new creditors.&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 03:34:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Bye-Bye-Experian/m-p/37199#M27417</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-07-23T03:34:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Bye-Bye Experian</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Bye-Bye-Experian/m-p/37210#M27423</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;HappyDays wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;I may be wrong but I believe that any creditor that is on your CR can pull at any time. A freeze only affects new creditors.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Yeah..I know the CA or OC can run it anytime but the others that did run shouldn't have been authorized...DH has no TL with Cap 1 or any of the others that did it.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;What can I do about the inquiries from Jan of this year when we were looking to buy a new vehicle?&amp;nbsp; I know you have 14 days and all inquiries are suppose to count as 1 ding against your credit.&amp;nbsp; Who do I contact to find out if the&amp;nbsp; large # showing only counts as 1?&amp;nbsp; The CRA?&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 04:03:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Bye-Bye-Experian/m-p/37210#M27423</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-07-23T04:03:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Bye-Bye Experian</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Bye-Bye-Experian/m-p/37233#M27442</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;I know that the CRA must report all changes (in your favor) to all creditors that you had for I think the last 6 months.&amp;nbsp; I know what you mean about the ings being counted as 1. I would like to know also. One of the PROs should be able to answer us.&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 04:50:46 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-07-23T04:50:46Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Bye-Bye Experian</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Bye-Bye-Experian/m-p/37237#M27444</link>
      <description>Is a Freeze different from a Fraud Alert?</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 05:01:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Bye-Bye-Experian/m-p/37237#M27444</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-07-23T05:01:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Bye-Bye Experian</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Bye-Bye-Experian/m-p/37238#M27445</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;sorry i have no idea.&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 05:04:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Bye-Bye-Experian/m-p/37238#M27445</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-07-23T05:04:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Bye-Bye Experian</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Bye-Bye-Experian/m-p/37302#M27483</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;Same here......I have thought about locking up and throwing away the key too.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Cory&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;img id="smileyvery-happy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyvery-happy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Very Happy" title="Smiley Very Happy" /&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 13:55:56 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Bye-Bye-Experian/m-p/37302#M27483</guid>
      <dc:creator>Cory</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-07-23T13:55:56Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Bye-Bye Experian</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Bye-Bye-Experian/m-p/37321#M27498</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;A freeze is not the same as a FA, and only some states allow you to freeze your reports.
&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;"FILE FROZEN DUE TO STATE LEGISLATION" is the comment you see on your CR if you freeze it .&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;A credit freeze prevents new creditors from seeing&amp;nbsp;a CR unless you authorize a temporary thaw. Prospective (new) creditors only receive a statement saying the file has been frozen.&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Current creditors can pull a soft for review, but not a hard inquiry.&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;Here are the state laws pertaining to security freezes:&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A href="http://www.consumersunion.org/campaigns//learn_more/003484indiv.html" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.consumersunion.org/campaigns//learn_more/003484indiv.html&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:57:04 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Bye-Bye-Experian/m-p/37321#M27498</guid>
      <dc:creator>Tuscani</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-07-23T14:57:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Bye-Bye Experian</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Bye-Bye-Experian/m-p/37436#M27573</link>
      <description>Thank you! &lt;img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 18:52:54 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-07-23T18:52:54Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Bye-Bye Experian</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Bye-Bye-Experian/m-p/37502#M27611</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;Yes, they are very different.&amp;nbsp; A freeze literally does that.&amp;nbsp; It prevents anyone from pulling your credit unless you authorize them or give them a pin.&amp;nbsp; A fraud alert just lets the creditor know that you may have been a vicitim of fraud and should contact you to verify that you are actually applying.&amp;nbsp; However, in some states the creditor isn't obligated to call.&amp;nbsp; And some states, like Georgia, don't even honor Freezes.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 20:27:59 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Bye-Bye-Experian/m-p/37502#M27611</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-07-23T20:27:59Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Bye-Bye Experian</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Bye-Bye-Experian/m-p/37749#M27745</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;Thank You for that answer Tuscani. I can in my state put a freeze on my CR.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;A soft pull doesn't hurt correct?&amp;nbsp; That I wouldn't mind at all.&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 03:15:17 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Bye-Bye-Experian/m-p/37749#M27745</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-07-24T03:15:17Z</dc:date>
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