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    <title>topic Fraud Department in General Credit Topics</title>
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    <description>I tried to talk to Verizon about my problem on other topics &amp;amp; i was wondering if i put in a fraud claim and say my wallet was lost with my social in there &amp;amp; unexpectedly received a bill from them saying i owe, But you kno how they be like “ this call is recorded for yadayadayada “ i tried being honest &amp;amp; told them i was a credit mule &amp;amp; asked could they help, but if i lie &amp;amp; put a fraud claim, would they listen to the previous calls &amp;amp; kno I’m lying ? Or is it worth a shot ?</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 19 Jul 2019 22:39:31 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2019-07-19T22:39:31Z</dc:date>
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      <title>*Credit Topic * PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE HELP ME</title>
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      <description>Hey my name’s rich &amp;amp; I’ve been a victim to a scam where i was told that i could take out multiple iPhones worth 1200$ each under my name, they’ll sell the phones &amp;amp; pay me for it, they also told me that it won’t effect my credit score, something about they changed the number ports so it won’t effect it so i went for it, even tho they paid for the down payments. I still received a bill from both Verizon &amp;amp; AT&amp;amp;T under my name &amp;amp; i believe my credit is on its way down the dump, I’m 19 &amp;amp; my credit score is 695 but i have 2 more weeks until the bills are due &amp;amp; each of them is about 350$. I don’t have 700$ to hold them off &amp;amp; i believe I’m actually almost 4000$ in debt with both companies combined. I need help with what i need to do to protect myself from this harm so my credit score won’t get ruined&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 05 Jul 2019 07:57:33 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-07-05T07:57:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: *Credit Topic * PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE HELP ME</title>
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      <description>Dont do or be part of get rich quick scams. Dont use your credit to make someone else money and keep your info away from people who have no need for it. Unfortunately, if you owe these companies, its you who will pay the consequences not those scammers. Why else do you think they want to use your credit. Good luck i hope you learn from this .</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 05 Jul 2019 14:22:15 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>AverageJoesCredit</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-07-05T14:22:15Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: *Credit Topic * PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE HELP ME</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;That is a scam known as 'phone credit muling'. You're in a bad spot...as you've signed contracts with multiple cell providers &amp;amp; you cannot cancel those contracts without returning the phones. You're legally on the hook for everything...I'm guessing you were already in a hard spot financially as you wouldn't have resorted to this if you weren't. You should google the term I mentioned above...I'm not going to research it for you BUT I can tell you you're not in for an easy time here...&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 05 Jul 2019 14:41:49 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Physh1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-07-05T14:41:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: *Credit Topic * PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE HELP ME</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Unfortunately, the only way out is to pay off the phones and cancel service, including ETFs. If you let them charge off, it will do a number on your credit. Also, cell phone providers aren't known to Goodwill anything later down the road and if you ever need service from them, they'll have this on file.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Only thing I could recommend would be to find out how much it would be to close those accounts and try to get a personal loan to cover them while your credit is still decent. You'll end up with a loan, but the issue will be handled. Then, contact an attorney about legal action against the scammers.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 05 Jul 2019 14:57:47 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Brian_Earl_Spilner</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-07-05T14:57:47Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Late Payments</title>
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      <description>How badly can 2 late phone bill payments affect your credit score, how many points it will drop ?</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 05 Jul 2019 15:26:40 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-07-05T15:26:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Late Payments</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Phone bill? Unless it goes to collections, I don’t think it will affect your credit score at all.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 05 Jul 2019 15:36:00 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>pinkandgrey</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-07-05T15:36:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Late Payments</title>
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      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;How badly can 2 late phone bill payments affect your credit score, how many points it will drop ?&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Are you seeing them on your credit report or did you just pay them late?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If you see them on your credit report you will lose a lot of points but everyone's score is different. I would imagine that 2 lates on a report could cost you about 60 points.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If you just paid them late but not over 30 days late, they won't affect your scores.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Typically you won't see late phone payments on your reports unless they go into collections.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 05 Jul 2019 16:09:22 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>jamie123</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-07-05T16:09:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Late Payments</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;If you are current now, it will not affect you.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Once your account is written off and in collections, they may report it to your credit reports.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If you were late then paid then late then paid, you are fine.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I would not make a habit of it.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 05 Jul 2019 16:08:23 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Shooting-For-800</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-07-05T16:08:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: *Credit Topic * PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE HELP ME</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;You need to explain to both carriers and that you really messed up and set up a payment plan.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Obviously, cancel the phone numbers so you are not paying for cell phone plans on top of this.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You have to pay, period.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If you know the people that took advantage, file a small claims lawsuit.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Do not do anything like this, loan friends money you need back, cosign for anyone other, or anything similar until you are wealthy enough to not worry about money.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;GL!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 05 Jul 2019 16:15:53 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Shooting-For-800</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-07-05T16:15:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Late Payments</title>
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      <description>I haven’t paid them yet, they aren’t even late yet i jus don’t have the money</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 05 Jul 2019 17:05:58 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-07-05T17:05:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: *Credit Topic * PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE HELP ME</title>
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      <description>Thanks I’m on the phone with customer service right now</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 05 Jul 2019 17:08:23 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-07-05T17:08:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Late Payments</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;@Anonymous&amp;nbsp; Hi and welcome to the forums&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If you let it go too long, it may get charged off and end up on your CR&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Going back to your original question, CO would hurt. I dont think anyone can tell you how many points, but the best guess would be "a lot"&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Then, if it remains unpaid, there will be separate reporting later from collection agency. That, too, will hurt&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Your best bet is to call and see if you can make some kind of payment arrangements so you dont fall behind any more&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 05 Jul 2019 18:45:10 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Remedios</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-07-05T18:45:10Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Late Payments</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Glad that you are on the phone with them.&amp;nbsp; &lt;img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Can't say anything about Verizon, but AT&amp;amp;T was very helpful to us when a sister in law did us dirty.&amp;nbsp; Call and explain yourself and hope for the best!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Good luck!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 06 Jul 2019 18:33:39 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>tcbofade</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-07-06T18:33:39Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Late Payments</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;That is a scheme I have never heard of before. It should be stated that carriers do not give out free phones, ever. You will end up paying for the phone somehow. You need to really consider who your phone goes to in the future. Generally people you know like family are good and certain friends would work if you buy outright(your going to store and they ask for you to buy x for them and hand you the money as well). If you fail to pay the bills the carriers will send you to collections which will demolish credit once it reports. You want to call in and see what can be sorted out because your in one interesting mess.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 06 Jul 2019 21:19:11 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>zerofire</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-07-06T21:19:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Late Payments</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;I am not sure, but don't these count as 2 accounts each. One account for post-pay phone service, and one installment loan for the phone? I have never purchased a phone this way, but I hear on the financial news all the time this is the reason for the slow down in phone upgrades. The carriers are no longer subsidizing the phones and have introduced installment loans to the offereings.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 09 Jul 2019 00:00:10 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>mikesonthemend</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-07-09T00:00:10Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Late Payments</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;1) Cancel service on those phones.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;2) Take out a loan on Lending Club or something similar, pay off what you owe on the phones.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;3) If possible, Small Claims court the mother**bleep**ers who did this.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;4) Pay your loan payments on-time.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;That's your step-by-step to get out of the kill-zone.&amp;nbsp; Trust me you do NOT want collections on your account, they could easily hit your credit for 100 points or more, then good luck trying to get any help from anyone with a score below 500.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 09 Jul 2019 05:03:53 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-07-09T05:03:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Late Payments</title>
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      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;At any time in this scam did you provide the scammers with your personal information including your SSN?&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;If you did then you need to freeze your Credit Reports immediately.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 09 Jul 2019 16:23:29 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>MakingProgress</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-07-09T16:23:29Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Late Payments</title>
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      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;How badly can 2 late phone bill payments affect your credit score, how many points it will drop ?&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;It's about more than lost points in scores. Late anything will stay on your CRs for 7 years. Now as time goes on, the severity of it lessens but it's not a good look.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 19 Jul 2019 12:56:48 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>CreditInspired</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-07-19T12:56:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Fraud Department</title>
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      <description>I tried to talk to Verizon about my problem on other topics &amp;amp; i was wondering if i put in a fraud claim and say my wallet was lost with my social in there &amp;amp; unexpectedly received a bill from them saying i owe, But you kno how they be like “ this call is recorded for yadayadayada “ i tried being honest &amp;amp; told them i was a credit mule &amp;amp; asked could they help, but if i lie &amp;amp; put a fraud claim, would they listen to the previous calls &amp;amp; kno I’m lying ? Or is it worth a shot ?</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 19 Jul 2019 22:39:31 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-07-19T22:39:31Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Fraud Department</title>
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      <description>I have no idea what’s going on here but one thing I do know for sure and that is DON’T FILE A FALSE REPORT OR CLAIM!!!</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 19 Jul 2019 23:06:58 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>CreditInspired</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-07-19T23:06:58Z</dc:date>
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