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    <title>topic Re: PenFed - What is a &amp;quot;relationship&amp;quot;? in General Credit Topics</title>
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    <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Does anyone have any data points about what constitutes a "relationship" and how it affects lending decisions?&amp;nbsp; It's frequently stated on these boards that PenFed (and Navy) are relationship-driven, but seldom elaborated upon.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Length of membership?&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Average daily balance?&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Number of products?&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Amount of activity (i.e., are we your primary financial institution?)&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;???&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;@Anonymous, IMHO .. Penfed Relationship;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Open a checking and savings, make some deposits for 6 months.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;And then &lt;img id="heart" class="emoticon emoticon-heart" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_heart.gif" alt="Heart" title="Heart" /&gt; .. &lt;FONT size="2"&gt;(as long as you do not have any skeleton's in your credit closet)&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;I believe that they are relationship driven ..IME&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2021 16:07:39 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>M_Smart007</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2021-03-10T16:07:39Z</dc:date>
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      <title>PenFed - What is a "relationship"?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/PenFed-What-is-a-quot-relationship-quot/m-p/6272919#M309426</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Does anyone have any data points about what constitutes a "relationship" and how it affects lending decisions?&amp;nbsp; It's frequently stated on these boards that PenFed (and Navy) are relationship-driven, but seldom elaborated upon.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Length of membership?&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Average daily balance?&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Number of products?&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Amount of activity (i.e., are we your primary financial institution?)&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;???&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2021 20:57:13 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-03-08T20:57:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PenFed - What is a "relationship"?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/PenFed-What-is-a-quot-relationship-quot/m-p/6273312#M309437</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Navy for sure likes relationships, for instance, direct deposit, acquiring one of their pledge loans or a host of other things. I just opened my PenFed account two weeks ago and I haven't really invested any time into researching their culture yet.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2021 08:16:45 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-03-09T08:16:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PenFed - What is a "relationship"?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/PenFed-What-is-a-quot-relationship-quot/m-p/6273425#M309442</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Not just specific to PenFed, what constitutes a relationship I think is pretty standard across lenders.&amp;nbsp; The bullet points you listed in the original post of course all contribute to that.&amp;nbsp; The element of time is one of the strongest driving forces of relationship though.&amp;nbsp; You could have a ton of different accounts with a lender... multiple deposit accounts, a loan, a CC, etc. but if you've only had all of them a couple of months, that's not much of a relationship yet.&amp;nbsp; Contrast that to someone that's been with a lender for years, no doubt that relationship is going to be viewed differently.&amp;nbsp; How much that impacts future lending decisions is always open for debate.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2021 14:58:52 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-03-09T14:58:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PenFed - What is a "relationship"?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/PenFed-What-is-a-quot-relationship-quot/m-p/6273794#M309475</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I've also seen people post on here how they just opened a NFCU, applied for a credit card same day and got approved for a decent amount. My NFCU account is pending, had to find some documentation of my Dad serving in the Air Force.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I just opened a penfed account, so far I like them but I am just building my relationship with them. Going to switch my direct deposits and do the majority of my banking with them so I can build a relationship. Obviously they'll want to see good standing, no overdrafts or bounced checks and proof of steady income. I don't plan to apply for any of their products until November of 2022 after all these inquiries fall off my report.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2021 23:48:29 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>kittycreditmeow</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-03-09T23:48:29Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PenFed - What is a "relationship"?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/PenFed-What-is-a-quot-relationship-quot/m-p/6274024#M309482</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;When I joined Penfed in January I opened a savings account then I financed a used car in January 2020. I then apped for and got the Pcr in September 2020 then I apped for and got the Platinum Rewards card, both with good SLs of $7500 &amp;amp; $6500. It doesn't take long to establish a relation with them.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1105121"&gt;@kittycreditmeow&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;I've also seen people post on here how they just opened a NFCU, applied for a credit card same day and got approved for a decent amount. My NFCU account is pending, had to find some documentation of my Dad serving in the Air Force.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I just opened a penfed account, so far I like them but I am just building my relationship with them. Going to switch my direct deposits and do the majority of my banking with them so I can build a relationship. Obviously they'll want to see good standing, no overdrafts or bounced checks and proof of steady income. I don't plan to apply for any of their products until November of 2022 after all these inquiries fall off my report.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2021 05:57:16 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Howaboutthat</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-03-10T05:57:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PenFed - What is a "relationship"?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/PenFed-What-is-a-quot-relationship-quot/m-p/6274207#M309493</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Does anyone have any data points about what constitutes a "relationship" and how it affects lending decisions?&amp;nbsp; It's frequently stated on these boards that PenFed (and Navy) are relationship-driven, but seldom elaborated upon.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Length of membership?&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Average daily balance?&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Number of products?&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Amount of activity (i.e., are we your primary financial institution?)&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;???&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;@Anonymous, IMHO .. Penfed Relationship;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Open a checking and savings, make some deposits for 6 months.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;And then &lt;img id="heart" class="emoticon emoticon-heart" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_heart.gif" alt="Heart" title="Heart" /&gt; .. &lt;FONT size="2"&gt;(as long as you do not have any skeleton's in your credit closet)&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;I believe that they are relationship driven ..IME&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2021 16:07:39 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>M_Smart007</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-03-10T16:07:39Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PenFed - What is a "relationship"?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/PenFed-What-is-a-quot-relationship-quot/m-p/6277376#M309672</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I applied for a cc and was approved. As cc statements arrived monthly and were paid, inserts for pre approved personal and car loans were stuffed in the same envelope and on the member log in page.&amp;nbsp; Later, I applied for an auto loan. It was seemless,&amp;nbsp; funds approved rapidly. A purchase occured, I made the car loan payments on time.&amp;nbsp; Later a cc limit increase was requested, they were instantaneously approved when&amp;nbsp; I talked to a customer service rep. I've been a client of their services for over ten years and extremely happy with every facet of their organization. I give them six stars!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2021 11:01:12 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>bettercreditguy1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-03-14T11:01:12Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PenFed - What is a "relationship"?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/PenFed-What-is-a-quot-relationship-quot/m-p/6277810#M309690</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1064950"&gt;@M_Smart007&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Does anyone have any data points about what constitutes a "relationship" and how it affects lending decisions?&amp;nbsp; It's frequently stated on these boards that PenFed (and Navy) are relationship-driven, but seldom elaborated upon.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Length of membership?&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Average daily balance?&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Number of products?&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Amount of activity (i.e., are we your primary financial institution?)&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;???&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;@Anonymous, IMHO .. Penfed Relationship;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Open a checking and savings, make some deposits for 6 months.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;And then &lt;img id="heart" class="emoticon emoticon-heart" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_heart.gif" alt="Heart" title="Heart" /&gt; .. &lt;FONT size="2"&gt;(as long as you do not have any skeleton's in your credit closet)&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;I believe that they are relationship driven ..IME&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;DIV class="lia-message-author-with-avatar"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="UserName lia-user-name lia-user-rank-Epic-Contributor lia-component-message-view-widget-author-username"&gt;&lt;A href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1064950" target="_self"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="login-bold"&gt;M_Smart007&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;AMEN Brother AMEN LOL&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;You are my brother from a different mother lol.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;It is funny how we are alike how we think and say stuff lol &lt;img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2021 23:59:32 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>JoeLuvsHisCredit</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-03-14T23:59:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PenFed - What is a "relationship"?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/PenFed-What-is-a-quot-relationship-quot/m-p/6314671#M311935</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I have a new relationship with PenFed and NFCU. I opened a new NFCU Mastercard account on 4/2/2021; they hard-pulled TransUnion and my score was 813. I received a starting limit of $23,100.00 so I am very happy with them. I joined through my husband who was in the Air Force. On Friday, 4/23/2021, I applied for&amp;nbsp;the PenFed Platinum Rewards Visa Signature Card; they hard-pulled Equifax and my score was 790; the agent stated that my application went to "review" and I would receive a response within 24-48 hours and I'm still waiting for a decision. I thought my PenFed application went to review because of my new Navy Federal credit card but it isn't showing on either of the 3 Credit Bureaus. If PedFed is declined . . . I'm ok . . . no big deal . . . I won't apply for any additional credit for 2 years and thereafter plan to apply for the Chase Marriott Bonvoy in 5/2023 once my current inquiries drop off.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2021 05:23:45 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>babygirl1256</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-04-28T05:23:45Z</dc:date>
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