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    <title>topic Re: Affirm Credit Reporting Question in General Credit Topics</title>
    <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Affirm-Credit-Reporting-Question/m-p/6720744#M329933</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;while it's not ideal to have affirm reporting on your credit report, unless you're late with your affirm payments, I wouldn't worry too much about it and the negative impact should mostly fade with time&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;ideally you have no new credit tradelines or inquires for at least a year before going after a mortgage, so you should be good&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;affirm reporting to your credit is negative for two reasons: it makes the average age of your credit younger, and it is considered a "consumer finance account" (in the old days prior to things like affirm existing, it meant 'very risky credit product for people who aren't trusted to pay their bills') which docks you some points on your credit score&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;you can mitigate these impacts by getting and holding on to credit for a long time, if you only have 3 credit cards and a car loan, with 2 years of history, affirm will impact you much more than if you had 12 credit cards, 2 car loans and a mortgage with 15 years of history for example&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;you already know to stop using affirm unless they can provide to you in writing that they won't report to your credit, the same goes for other similar services. And absolutely&amp;nbsp;never pay affirm or anybody else late because that will entirely derail your credit and they will always report when you are late paying per your agreement with them&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2023 19:18:32 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>GZG</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2023-11-12T19:18:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Affirm Credit Reporting Question</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Affirm-Credit-Reporting-Question/m-p/6720732#M329931</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Tldr :&lt;SPAN&gt;Initially, using #Affirm, I thought it wouldn't affect my credit like standard "pay-in-four" plans, but it led to a 30-point drop and shows as a new credit account. I paid off my other two Affirm plans immediately to try to lessen any further damage, but I'm unsure if that will stop them from reporting it. I'm very concerned about these additional plans affecting my already lowered score. Will paying off an Affirm installment payment plan in full prevent it from hitting Experian? Any guidance or advice is appreciated.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="lia-align-left"&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;More details :&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;I used Affirm, assuming it wouldn't impact my credit similarly to "pay-in-four" plans, but it unexpectedly caused a 30-point drop in my score. Realizing this, I paid off my other Affirm payment plans early, aiming to prevent any further negative impact. In my view I'm not sure why something that was paid off in full and before they reported it to Experian would need to be reported .&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="lia-align-left"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Despite settling these early, I'm uncertain if it prevents the impact on my credit. With my credit already so much lower, I fear more damage could be significant. I've learned from this experience and caution against using Affirm due to its considerable effect on credit scores.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Affirm payment plans (at least the longer ones with interest) via Amazon do seem to create new credit accounts, significantly impacting scores and they seem to report a month or two late. My hard-earned credit score has been adversely affected due to Affirm so hopefully others will keep this in mind when thinking about using them.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If I settle an Affirm installment plan before its reporting, I'm unsure if it will still be reported to Experian.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Any guidance or advice on this matter would be greatly appreciated.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;NOTE: If for some reason the other installment plans do appear on my credit and completely ruin my credit what's the best thing I could do to build it quickly and how long could it take. We are planning on buying a home within the next 2 years so I really need to make sure my credit is in a good place. I should have known better than to mess around with these payment plan type of things.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2023 17:44:16 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Kimberly</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-11-12T17:44:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Affirm Credit Reporting Question</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Affirm-Credit-Reporting-Question/m-p/6720744#M329933</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;while it's not ideal to have affirm reporting on your credit report, unless you're late with your affirm payments, I wouldn't worry too much about it and the negative impact should mostly fade with time&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;ideally you have no new credit tradelines or inquires for at least a year before going after a mortgage, so you should be good&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;affirm reporting to your credit is negative for two reasons: it makes the average age of your credit younger, and it is considered a "consumer finance account" (in the old days prior to things like affirm existing, it meant 'very risky credit product for people who aren't trusted to pay their bills') which docks you some points on your credit score&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;you can mitigate these impacts by getting and holding on to credit for a long time, if you only have 3 credit cards and a car loan, with 2 years of history, affirm will impact you much more than if you had 12 credit cards, 2 car loans and a mortgage with 15 years of history for example&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;you already know to stop using affirm unless they can provide to you in writing that they won't report to your credit, the same goes for other similar services. And absolutely&amp;nbsp;never pay affirm or anybody else late because that will entirely derail your credit and they will always report when you are late paying per your agreement with them&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2023 19:18:32 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>GZG</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-11-12T19:18:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Affirm Credit Reporting Question</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Affirm-Credit-Reporting-Question/m-p/6720752#M329935</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Welcome to the forum. Aside from the question of if the points loss was Fico score or Vantage. The issue with products like Affirm are they're considered, and scored as a CFA (consumer finance account).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CFAs tend to be scored more harshly due to being considered products focused towards higher risk borrowers. An unfair assessment as not everyone who makes use of these types of products is high risk.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Affirm and it's reporting has been known to be sporadic at best, so it's anyone's guess as to what they'll report, or even if and when they'll report. Maybe someone with more experience with an Affirm account will chime in about their reporting.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The best thing you could do is pay them in full at your earliest convenience and avoid using them in the future... Your scores should have no problem recovering in plenty of time for your home purchase.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2023 19:27:43 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>JoeRockhead</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-11-12T19:27:43Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Affirm Credit Reporting Question</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Affirm-Credit-Reporting-Question/m-p/6731212#M330468</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1131516"&gt;@GZG&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;you can mitigate these impacts by getting and holding on to credit for a long time, if you only have 3 credit cards and a car loan, with 2 years of history, affirm will impact you much more than if you had 12 credit cards, 2 car loans and a mortgage with 15 years of history for example&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;excellent advice.... "wait around for a decade or so. And buy a house."&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2024 06:08:53 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Pppoolboy</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-01-09T06:08:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Affirm Credit Reporting Question</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Affirm-Credit-Reporting-Question/m-p/6731289#M330481</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1175366"&gt;@Pppoolboy&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1131516"&gt;@GZG&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;you can mitigate these impacts by getting and holding on to credit for a long time, if you only have 3 credit cards and a car loan, with 2 years of history, affirm will impact you much more than if you had 12 credit cards, 2 car loans and a mortgage with 15 years of history for example&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;excellent advice.... "wait around for a decade or so. And buy a house."&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;This was not the advice given at all&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2024 17:09:48 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>coldworld</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-01-09T17:09:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Affirm Credit Reporting Question</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Affirm-Credit-Reporting-Question/m-p/6732627#M330551</link>
      <description>I'm a little confused here. I have an Affirm loan from last year and it is not on any of my credit reports. Are you saying you went past due on your Affirm loans? I think that would make sense as to why they would decide to report to the creditors.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2024 08:55:46 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Din2</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-01-15T08:55:46Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Affirm Credit Reporting Question</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Affirm-Credit-Reporting-Question/m-p/6837130#M337299</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I have been using affirm for a few years. Never late. Have many loans with them. Just now seeing them on my Experian. The ones that were paid are showing as closed. Now from what I've seen when you close an account it dings your score. Will these do that also?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2025 16:27:40 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Blonde1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-08-11T16:27:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Affirm Credit Reporting Question</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Affirm-Credit-Reporting-Question/m-p/6851868#M338082</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Yes it just dropped mine a negative 40 when I paid for a firm accounts off&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2026 10:10:13 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Gee</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-01-03T10:10:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Affirm Credit Reporting Question</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Affirm-Credit-Reporting-Question/m-p/6852792#M338157</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1175121"&gt;@Din2&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;I'm a little confused here. I have an Affirm loan from last year and it is not on any of my credit reports. Are you saying you went past due on your Affirm loans? I think that would make sense as to why they would decide to report to the creditors.&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;A couple things. First, sometime mid last year Affirm announced they would increase reporting to CRAs. Second, I had read from multiple sources that 0% interest (like the 4 payment loans) should not get tagged as CFAs. Per info in a old thread - as of 5/2025 Affirm stated their loans would report to TU as well as EX. Why not EQ?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;There are recent historical threads discussing Affirm, Klarna and CFAs in general. It&amp;nbsp;might we worth a search.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1203877"&gt;@Gee&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Was that your only open loan? If so, Fico penalizes for no open loan on file. However, a 40 point drop exceeds normal expectations. Has your revolving utilization remained steady?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Scores can rebound some a month or 2 after closure. Hope that is the case for you. Come back with an update.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2026 00:01:19 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Thomas_Thumb</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-01-10T00:01:19Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Affirm Credit Reporting Question</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Affirm-Credit-Reporting-Question/m-p/6852796#M338158</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/884935"&gt;@Thomas_Thumb&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I suppose these loans, if reported, are considered installment loans. For those with no other open installment loan, opening one would gain points for diversity, which would then be lost when closed.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I don't suppose fico or vs are going to add a new category unless their data mining shows some benefit to them in predicting default. It sounds like right now they penalize for cfa's in general, even if paid on time.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2026 23:47:41 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>FicoMike0</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-01-09T23:47:41Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Affirm Credit Reporting Question</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Affirm-Credit-Reporting-Question/m-p/6852839#M338159</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hey&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1177087"&gt;@FicoMike0&lt;/a&gt;. Diversity of credit mix doesn't change when you close an account. That metric looks at all accounts on your credit reports, open and closed. What is gained/lost with an [only] installment loan is the bonus awarded from the Amount of Debt slice of the FICO pie when it is opened and eventually closed. Diversity of credit mix would be satisfied upon opening the loan, then remain for ~10 years following the closure of the loan until it falls off of one's reports. Presumably at some point during that decade another loan would be opened in most cases, thus allowing diversity of credit mix to be maintained.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2026 06:34:32 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>BrutalBodyShots</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-01-10T06:34:32Z</dc:date>
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