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    <title>topic PFD Letter questions - Help! in General Credit Topics</title>
    <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/PFD-Letter-questions-Help/m-p/118362#M62181</link>
    <description>&lt;DIV&gt;Hello everyone&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;I haven't been here in a while.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;I've sent out 3 PFD letters, and here are the results&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;1 &lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;&lt;FONT color="#cc6600"&gt;Solomon and Solomon:&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/EM&gt;&amp;nbsp;No response after&amp;nbsp;a month&amp;nbsp;-- Should I send another?&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;2&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt; &lt;FONT color="#cc6600"&gt;I C Systems:&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/EM&gt; Instead of accepting my settlement offer (50%) they sent me a print out from my doctor that had my SS number, Phone number, etc on it.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Is this legal for them to have access to that information?&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;3&lt;/STRONG&gt; &lt;FONT color="#cc6600"&gt;&lt;EM&gt;Carter Business Service Inc:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;FONT color="#666666"&gt;They sent a response that made no sense.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT color="#cc6600"&gt;&lt;FONT color="#666666"&gt;They told me they would accept my offer of 50% IF their client agrees, and that it was due by a date that was nowhere on the letter. Should I send the OC a PFD, and should I offer 50% or the full amount. This is my regular doctor, so I don't want to get on bad terms with him.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT color="#666666"&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT color="#666666"&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT color="#666666"&gt;Also, I'd like to know if sending the standard PFD letter, with a place for them to sign at the bottom, and a place for them to stamp with their business ID would be just as effective? &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT color="#666666"&gt;I ask this because I don't want to send another letter, then get another vague response that will be nothing I can use.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT color="#666666"&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT color="#666666"&gt;Sorry this is so long. I have been trying to clean up my credit, but these people are making it near impossible!&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT color="#666666"&gt;Any help to the questions above would be wonderful!&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT color="#666666"&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT color="#666666"&gt;Happy Holidays to everyone! &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 06:53:34 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-12-20T06:53:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>PFD Letter questions - Help!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/PFD-Letter-questions-Help/m-p/118362#M62181</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;Hello everyone&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;I haven't been here in a while.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;I've sent out 3 PFD letters, and here are the results&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;1 &lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;&lt;FONT color="#cc6600"&gt;Solomon and Solomon:&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/EM&gt;&amp;nbsp;No response after&amp;nbsp;a month&amp;nbsp;-- Should I send another?&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;2&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt; &lt;FONT color="#cc6600"&gt;I C Systems:&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/EM&gt; Instead of accepting my settlement offer (50%) they sent me a print out from my doctor that had my SS number, Phone number, etc on it.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Is this legal for them to have access to that information?&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;3&lt;/STRONG&gt; &lt;FONT color="#cc6600"&gt;&lt;EM&gt;Carter Business Service Inc:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;FONT color="#666666"&gt;They sent a response that made no sense.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT color="#cc6600"&gt;&lt;FONT color="#666666"&gt;They told me they would accept my offer of 50% IF their client agrees, and that it was due by a date that was nowhere on the letter. Should I send the OC a PFD, and should I offer 50% or the full amount. This is my regular doctor, so I don't want to get on bad terms with him.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT color="#666666"&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT color="#666666"&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT color="#666666"&gt;Also, I'd like to know if sending the standard PFD letter, with a place for them to sign at the bottom, and a place for them to stamp with their business ID would be just as effective? &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT color="#666666"&gt;I ask this because I don't want to send another letter, then get another vague response that will be nothing I can use.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT color="#666666"&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT color="#666666"&gt;Sorry this is so long. I have been trying to clean up my credit, but these people are making it near impossible!&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT color="#666666"&gt;Any help to the questions above would be wonderful!&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT color="#666666"&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT color="#666666"&gt;Happy Holidays to everyone! &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 06:53:34 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-12-20T06:53:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PFD Letter questions - Help!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/PFD-Letter-questions-Help/m-p/118364#M62182</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;hey Astrid!&amp;nbsp; long time...&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;1) Nasty CA.&amp;nbsp; DV first if you have not... take collecting SOL into consideration.&amp;nbsp; Don't repeat PFD offer until they have validated and only if you can't deal with OC.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;2)&amp;nbsp;Might not be legal for them to have any info depending on HIPAA and if they can validate with DV.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Does your doc still own the debt?&amp;nbsp; Don't deal with CA if so.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;3) Again, does doc own debt?&amp;nbsp; Always negotiate with OC.&amp;nbsp; It is particularly easy to do so when OC is a medical entity.&amp;nbsp; Considering it is your regular doc, frankly (and this is just my opinion) if you can afford to PIF to OC with a PFD, do so.&amp;nbsp; Call their office and speak with whomever does their billing to feel them out.&amp;nbsp; Explain you want to correct this but you definitely want assurance that&amp;nbsp;the CA info will not continue to haunt you on your CBRs.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Now, if this doesn't clear it up easily.... search the boards for info on HIPAA.&amp;nbsp; Also search HIPPA because many of us typo it... including myself!&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;You should be able to clear up 2 and 3 very easily.&amp;nbsp; As for 1, depends on if it was medical or not.&amp;nbsp; If not... do what you can to not deal with Solomon... nasty....&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 07:11:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/PFD-Letter-questions-Help/m-p/118364#M62182</guid>
      <dc:creator>SmartCookie</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-12-20T07:11:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PFD Letter questions - Help!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/PFD-Letter-questions-Help/m-p/118408#M62199</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;Thanks smart - I'll send them a DV letter &lt;img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;What do you think about sending the others another PFD with a place to sign and stamp at the bottom - does their answer strictly have to be on their letterhead, or will a signed/stamped document be just as effective?&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 13:12:07 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/PFD-Letter-questions-Help/m-p/118408#M62199</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-12-20T13:12:07Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PFD Letter questions - Help!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/PFD-Letter-questions-Help/m-p/118524#M62225</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;What does "PFD" mean? Also, I had a collection from 1996 that I paid in full in June2007. The CR shows that it is paid but at a legal amount less than in full. Will this affect my score or should I just leave it alone?&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:22:16 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/PFD-Letter-questions-Help/m-p/118524#M62225</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-12-20T16:22:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PFD Letter questions - Help!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/PFD-Letter-questions-Help/m-p/118536#M62231</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;Astrid wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Thanks smart - I'll send them a DV letter &lt;img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;What do you think about sending the others another PFD with a place to sign and stamp at the bottom - does their answer strictly have to be on their letterhead, or will a signed/stamped document be just as effective?&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Micromanager huh?&amp;nbsp; &lt;img id="smileytongue" class="emoticon emoticon-smileytongue" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif" alt="Smiley Tongue" title="Smiley Tongue" /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;I definitely would not do it.&amp;nbsp; I'd want the written proof that I retain to be 100% from the company on their own letterhead.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:43:39 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/PFD-Letter-questions-Help/m-p/118536#M62231</guid>
      <dc:creator>SmartCookie</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-12-20T16:43:39Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PFD Letter questions - Help!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/PFD-Letter-questions-Help/m-p/118548#M62236</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;welcome aboard lanier!&amp;nbsp; Please start here:&amp;nbsp; &lt;A target="_blank" href="http://ficoforums.myfico.com/fico/board/message?board.id=ficoscoring&amp;amp;thread.id=2654"&gt;http://ficoforums.myfico.com/fico/board/message?board.id=ficoscoring&amp;amp;thread.id=2654&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp; refer to it well and often.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;PFD is a Pay for Delete letter for unpaid debt.&amp;nbsp; There is more info on it thru the above link.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;If you have a debt that made it to collections 11 years ago I have no idea why this has not dropped off of your reports yet.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Legally less than full is good in the way that it means you now owe nada on the debt.&amp;nbsp; However, a paid collection is not much better than an unpaid one as far as FICO scoring goes.&amp;nbsp; You still want a paid collection off of your reports.&amp;nbsp; If you had PFD'd when you had paid last June, it would be gone.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;All is not lost.&amp;nbsp; On your 3 CBRs, what is showing regarding this debt?&amp;nbsp; Just the CA info, or the OC as well?&amp;nbsp; If you can cut and paste it on a new thread, removing any identifying info that would help.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Message Edited by SmartCookie on &lt;SPAN class="date_text"&gt;12-20-2007&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="time_text"&gt;01:16 PM&lt;/SPAN&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:16:36 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>SmartCookie</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-12-20T18:16:36Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PFD Letter questions - Help!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/PFD-Letter-questions-Help/m-p/118608#M62262</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Anyone else have an opinion about sending a sign and stamp PFD?&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Message Edited by Astrid on &lt;SPAN class="date_text"&gt;12-20-2007&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="time_text"&gt;04:39 PM&lt;/SPAN&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 00:39:59 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-12-21T00:39:59Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PFD Letter questions - Help!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/PFD-Letter-questions-Help/m-p/118918#M62352</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;bump&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 00:41:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/PFD-Letter-questions-Help/m-p/118918#M62352</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-12-21T00:41:03Z</dc:date>
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