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    <title>topic Re: Crap 1 ..&amp;quot;pre-approved&amp;quot; shell game... in General Credit Topics</title>
    <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Crap-1-quot-pre-approved-quot-shell-game/m-p/11653#M7529</link>
    <description>&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Tuscani wrote&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;And as you found out.. CAP1 is Inq happy and will pull all three for ANYTHING.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Remids me of Cingular......&lt;img id="smileyvery-happy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyvery-happy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Very Happy" title="Smiley Very Happy" /&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 17:00:44 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>MidnightVoice</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-05-26T17:00:44Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Crap 1 .."pre-approved" shell game...</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Crap-1-quot-pre-approved-quot-shell-game/m-p/11639#M7519</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;Ok, so like I get this "PRE_APPROVED" CC offer from CAP 1.&amp;nbsp; for a CL of $3,000.&amp;nbsp; HUMMMMM??&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;EX:601&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;TU:610&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;EQ:560&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;I do have an Auto loan with Cap 1 (17%) for about 8 months now.&amp;nbsp; Maybe they are rewarding me for my on time, no late payments.&amp;nbsp; I have a Orchard bank&amp;nbsp; $300. And a secured BofA $1,000 secured. That's it!&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Neg&amp;gt; 6 baddies to fall off between 8- 12 months.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;So, I call the "800",&amp;nbsp; speak to Ms. Thannng, she tells me yes that it IS a preapproved Card and she will need to do a credit pull.....HUH?&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;How can It be a Pre-Approved card, and she needs to do a credit pull?&amp;nbsp; So I agree to submit the application ONLY if it is a SOFT pull.&amp;nbsp; I ask her again, please check if it is a hard or soft pull.&amp;nbsp; I am put on hold.&amp;nbsp; She comes back, says I have been pre-approved, and It IS a soft pull, and I will know in 60 seconds if I am approved......HUH?&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;I had a gut feelin about this, but I submitted...60 seconds goes by and I am told that I will get a written notification in two weeks....&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; CLICK, LINE IS DEAD.....Hummm, that usually is a BIG NOOOOOO.......&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;A few days later, I get a credit alert, Multiple Inquires from CRAP 1......AGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Is there anything I can do?&amp;nbsp; Someone smack me&amp;nbsp;DOPE SLAP!&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 15:33:42 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-05-26T15:33:42Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Crap 1 .."pre-approved" shell game...</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Crap-1-quot-pre-approved-quot-shell-game/m-p/11644#M7523</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;pre-approved is not the same as qualified&amp;nbsp; &lt;img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /&gt;&amp;nbsp; I sorted that one out when I was looking at refinancing.&amp;nbsp; Real, final qualification required hard pulls, and resulted in an offer that was good for 3 months.&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 16:48:53 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Crap-1-quot-pre-approved-quot-shell-game/m-p/11644#M7523</guid>
      <dc:creator>MidnightVoice</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-05-26T16:48:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Crap 1 .."pre-approved" shell game...</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Crap-1-quot-pre-approved-quot-shell-game/m-p/11650#M7527</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;Not much you can do.. As already noted.. pre-approved means nothing. And as you found out.. CAP1 is Inq happy and will pull all three for ANYTHING.&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 16:56:45 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Crap-1-quot-pre-approved-quot-shell-game/m-p/11650#M7527</guid>
      <dc:creator>Tuscani</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-05-26T16:56:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Crap 1 .."pre-approved" shell game...</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Crap-1-quot-pre-approved-quot-shell-game/m-p/11653#M7529</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Tuscani wrote&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;And as you found out.. CAP1 is Inq happy and will pull all three for ANYTHING.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Remids me of Cingular......&lt;img id="smileyvery-happy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyvery-happy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Very Happy" title="Smiley Very Happy" /&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 17:00:44 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Crap-1-quot-pre-approved-quot-shell-game/m-p/11653#M7529</guid>
      <dc:creator>MidnightVoice</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-05-26T17:00:44Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Crap 1 .."pre-approved" shell game...</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Crap-1-quot-pre-approved-quot-shell-game/m-p/11656#M7531</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;MidnightVoice wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Tuscani wrote&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;And as you found out.. CAP1 is Inq happy and will pull all three for ANYTHING.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Remids me of Cingular......&lt;img id="smileyvery-happy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyvery-happy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Very Happy" title="Smiley Very Happy" /&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;HAHAHAH! You are never letting that go are you. &lt;img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 17:04:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Crap-1-quot-pre-approved-quot-shell-game/m-p/11656#M7531</guid>
      <dc:creator>Tuscani</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-05-26T17:04:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Crap 1 .."pre-approved" shell game...</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Crap-1-quot-pre-approved-quot-shell-game/m-p/11671#M7541</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;Tuscani wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;MidnightVoice wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Tuscani wrote&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;And as you found out.. CAP1 is Inq happy and will pull all three for ANYTHING.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Remids me of Cingular......&lt;img id="smileyvery-happy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyvery-happy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Very Happy" title="Smiley Very Happy" /&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;HAHAHAH! You are never letting that go are you. &lt;img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Not until September 13th of this year&amp;nbsp; &lt;img id="smileyvery-happy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyvery-happy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Very Happy" title="Smiley Very Happy" /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 17:49:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Crap-1-quot-pre-approved-quot-shell-game/m-p/11671#M7541</guid>
      <dc:creator>MidnightVoice</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-05-26T17:49:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Crap 1 .."pre-approved" shell game...</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Crap-1-quot-pre-approved-quot-shell-game/m-p/11675#M7545</link>
      <description>Years ago I was told that INQ's that do not result in a credit offer are treated different is scoring than INQ's that do.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Does this still hold true?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I do know that removing INQ's that do not result in a credit offer are easier to remove</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 18:01:36 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Crap-1-quot-pre-approved-quot-shell-game/m-p/11675#M7545</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-05-26T18:01:36Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Crap 1 .."pre-approved" shell game...</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Crap-1-quot-pre-approved-quot-shell-game/m-p/11678#M7548</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;I think they all count.&amp;nbsp; The FICO computer is looking for people who are "looking for credit".&amp;nbsp; They know seperately about what you actually get.&amp;nbsp; The inq from my mortgage company (I didn't move after all) and from Cingular (phone, no credit) are still on my CRs&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 18:10:57 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Crap-1-quot-pre-approved-quot-shell-game/m-p/11678#M7548</guid>
      <dc:creator>MidnightVoice</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-05-26T18:10:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Crap 1 .."pre-approved" shell game...</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Crap-1-quot-pre-approved-quot-shell-game/m-p/11679#M7549</link>
      <description>I get pre-approvals from Cap1 all the time, over years. To this day, I have never been excepted. I am starting to think someone is doing it to get jollies. I stopped applying.</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 18:14:18 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-05-26T18:14:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Crap 1 .."pre-approved" shell game...</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Crap-1-quot-pre-approved-quot-shell-game/m-p/11689#M7555</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;More like the credit Gods are looking over you :-)&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;When I ran into the no electricity, no phone, and no mail for over a month because of hurricanes,... Cap 1 is my only creditor that dinged me for a 30 day late.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Late fees I can handle but reporting it late was uncalled for IMHO.&amp;nbsp; Washington Mutual actually gave me an extra 90 day grace period on my cc and mortgage.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Guess what's NOT in my wallet!?!&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Message Edited by Felicity on &lt;SPAN class="date_text"&gt;05-26-2007&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="time_text"&gt;02:50 PM&lt;/SPAN&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 18:50:38 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-05-26T18:50:38Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Crap 1 .."pre-approved" shell game...</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Crap-1-quot-pre-approved-quot-shell-game/m-p/11735#M7594</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;Timothy wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;Years ago I was told that INQ's that do not result in a credit offer are treated different is scoring than INQ's that do.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Does this still hold true?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I do know that removing INQ's that do not result in a credit offer are easier to remove&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;That's an old old old myth... And is certainly not true.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 20:53:29 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Crap-1-quot-pre-approved-quot-shell-game/m-p/11735#M7594</guid>
      <dc:creator>Tuscani</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-05-26T20:53:29Z</dc:date>
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