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    <title>topic Re: Received a cryptic call at 0530 hrs... in General Credit Topics</title>
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    <description>Just adding again. DO NOT ACCEPT ANYTHING VERBAL OVER THE PHONE. It must be in writing. I to this date have not dealt with an honest person at a collection agency. &lt;img id="smileysad" class="emoticon emoticon-smileysad" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif" alt="Smiley Sad" title="Smiley Sad" /&gt;&lt;img id="smileysad" class="emoticon emoticon-smileysad" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif" alt="Smiley Sad" title="Smiley Sad" /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Message Edited by ilovepizza on &lt;SPAN class="date_text"&gt;03-02-2008&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="time_text"&gt;11:59 AM&lt;/SPAN&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 19:59:40 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-03-02T19:59:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Received a cryptic call at 0530 hrs...</title>
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      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Hi All&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;I am looking for suggestions on how to handle this.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;I received a message on my machine 5:30 am from an individual that did not identify himself or company. He only stated "Call me back I have a package for you."&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;I did a google of the number and came up with this info&lt;P align="0"&gt;&lt;B&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;Mercantile Adjustment Bureau, LLC&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P align="0"&gt;&lt;B&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;6390 Main Street&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P align="0"&gt;&lt;B&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;Williamsville, NY 14221&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P align="0"&gt;&lt;B&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;Depew, NY 14043&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P align="0"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;I not&amp;nbsp;am unaware of any outstanding debts. I have been monitoring my credit reports and no inquires have been made.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P align="0"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;Should I call and record the conversation not giving any personal info to "verify that the package is mine."?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;What disclaimer do I need to say&amp;nbsp;prior to recording? I live in Ca. &amp;nbsp;I would like to tell them not to call gain no matter what they want.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P align="0"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;Thanks again!&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P align="0"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:50:10 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-02-27T15:50:10Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Received a cryptic call at 0530 hrs...</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Received-a-cryptic-call-at-0530-hrs/m-p/164838#M79758</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;To call that early is illegal I believe, I'd take a picture of your caller id if you can?&amp;nbsp; (I'm assuming that's how you had the info/time to start with.)&amp;nbsp; And that just in general sounds kind of creepy/skeezy "&lt;EM&gt;I have a package for you&lt;/EM&gt;".&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;I'd be on guard, hopefully someone will have more input for you about the company.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;I can't even think of anything you could call a package unless it was maybe a trap to send you a summons?&amp;nbsp; (I'm grasping at straws really.)&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:55:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Received-a-cryptic-call-at-0530-hrs/m-p/164838#M79758</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-02-27T15:55:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Received a cryptic call at 0530 hrs...</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Received-a-cryptic-call-at-0530-hrs/m-p/164839#M79759</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;I would most definitely take a picture of the caller ID with the phone number on it and the time the call came in.&amp;nbsp; They are not, by law, to call you before 8am and after 9pm.&amp;nbsp; That is BS.&amp;nbsp; And so is the whole "package" thing.&amp;nbsp; I can't wait to hear what the others think of that.&amp;nbsp; I don't know if I would call them back because they sound pretty sneaky and may take bits and pieces of the recorded phone call to trap you into something.&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:56:41 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-02-27T15:56:41Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Received a cryptic call at 0530 hrs...</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Received-a-cryptic-call-at-0530-hrs/m-p/164862#M79768</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;keep the message and time stamp (and also take a pic of the caller ID if applicable).&amp;nbsp; The 5:30AM call is a violation as is the deception to have you return their call.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Don't call, don't write - wait, see what they do and then hit them with the violations at the get go.&amp;nbsp; Since they 'called' they need to send the letter with 5 days - again another violation if they don't.&amp;nbsp; Let's see $2K (possible $3K) so far....&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:15:49 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-02-27T16:15:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Received a cryptic call at 0530 hrs...</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Received-a-cryptic-call-at-0530-hrs/m-p/164889#M79778</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;I got the pics and saved the recording! &lt;img id="smileywink" class="emoticon emoticon-smileywink" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif" alt="Smiley Wink" title="Smiley Wink" /&gt;&amp;nbsp; The DW took back up pics with her camera too!&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Would I submit the answering machine as evidence or make a recording using a video capture or similar??&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:35:11 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-02-27T16:35:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Received a cryptic call at 0530 hrs...</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Received-a-cryptic-call-at-0530-hrs/m-p/164896#M79780</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;i once got a vm telling me that i had flowers that were to be delivered to me, but the delivery man couldn't find my house, and needed directions.&amp;nbsp; it seemed odd, since my bf at the time never bought me flowers ever.&amp;nbsp; i did a reverse search, and it was a collection agency. they will say anything to get info from you.&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:43:48 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Received-a-cryptic-call-at-0530-hrs/m-p/164896#M79780</guid>
      <dc:creator>treschic</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-02-27T16:43:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Received a cryptic call at 0530 hrs...</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Received-a-cryptic-call-at-0530-hrs/m-p/164902#M79784</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;That's awful!&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Both parts...&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;The CA being so sleazy and your boyfriend not buying you flowers &lt;img id="smileywink" class="emoticon emoticon-smileywink" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif" alt="Smiley Wink" title="Smiley Wink" /&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:54:04 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-02-27T16:54:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Received a cryptic call at 0530 hrs...</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Received-a-cryptic-call-at-0530-hrs/m-p/165020#M79828</link>
      <description>LAWSUIT! Can we say deceptive trade practices?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;This is worthy of contacting the meanest consumer credit attorney that is a shark, imo!</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 18:43:52 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-02-27T18:43:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Received a cryptic call at 0530 hrs...</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Received-a-cryptic-call-at-0530-hrs/m-p/165052#M79843</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;I not am unaware of any outstanding debts.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Just wondering if you are not aware of outstanding debts why you would be afraid to talk to a collection company. I'd be more afraid to ignore it in case it is fraud. If you have a reason to hide because of old haunting debt that is another thing. I always at least call them back and state not mine/fraud after I find information to settle my concerns about ID Theft. I sometimes get these strange calls, and it turns out to be a celphone from a UPS driver, phone company, ect. I NEVER give out information if I don't know why or who and can not validate. But I call and let them speak to hear what they have to say. That is if you really don't have debt that is yours. I would be terrified not to investigate. These CAs don't stop so easily and play dirty pool. The last thing I need is a CA hunting me down for a Fraud debt. Just my opinion if you really believe you have no debt. If the debt is yours and you really don't know about it, wouldn't you want it cleared up before you get a collection on your CR? I am all for heading things off before they get bad.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;It probably is a CA collecting for a debt. They pop up even years after you default or another CA gave up and sold out. &lt;img id="smileysad" class="emoticon emoticon-smileysad" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif" alt="Smiley Sad" title="Smiley Sad" /&gt; If this debt is not very old, I'd try to settle to prevent it from going on your CR if the debt is legit and not inflated with late fees, just an opinion. I am not great at chasing away CAs. If legit, I try to make it go away before it is reported and get it in writing that it is over and will never be reported.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Message Edited by ilovepizza on &lt;SPAN class="date_text"&gt;02-27-2008&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="time_text"&gt;11:31 AM&lt;/SPAN&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:31:59 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-02-27T19:31:59Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Received a cryptic call at 0530 hrs...</title>
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      <description>Just adding again. DO NOT ACCEPT ANYTHING VERBAL OVER THE PHONE. It must be in writing. I to this date have not dealt with an honest person at a collection agency. &lt;img id="smileysad" class="emoticon emoticon-smileysad" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif" alt="Smiley Sad" title="Smiley Sad" /&gt;&lt;img id="smileysad" class="emoticon emoticon-smileysad" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif" alt="Smiley Sad" title="Smiley Sad" /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Message Edited by ilovepizza on &lt;SPAN class="date_text"&gt;03-02-2008&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="time_text"&gt;11:59 AM&lt;/SPAN&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 19:59:40 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Received-a-cryptic-call-at-0530-hrs/m-p/167245#M80724</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-03-02T19:59:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Received a cryptic call at 0530 hrs...</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Received-a-cryptic-call-at-0530-hrs/m-p/167411#M80796</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;Pizza,&amp;nbsp; I think you meant was do not ACCEPT anything verbal, to get it in writing. But there are exceptions to every rule.&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 22:58:22 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-02-29T22:58:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Received a cryptic call at 0530 hrs...</title>
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      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;Have you tried googling the phone number ?&amp;nbsp; There are a lot of things going around here that are actually calls trying to get people to sign up for extended warranties...but I am not sure they would call that a "package"&amp;nbsp; --- have had numerous calls, even on my work cell phone.&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 23:57:16 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Received-a-cryptic-call-at-0530-hrs/m-p/167480#M80823</guid>
      <dc:creator>demi</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-02-29T23:57:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Received a cryptic call at 0530 hrs...</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Received-a-cryptic-call-at-0530-hrs/m-p/167526#M80847</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;It is a violation to call before 8 a.m. (or is it 9 a.m.) in the morning.&amp;nbsp; A lawyer told my mother that, and you could have a case if it was a collection agency.&amp;nbsp; Let's see what you could get out of them instead of them trying to collect from re-aging ect!&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 01:03:54 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-03-01T01:03:54Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Received a cryptic call at 0530 hrs...</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Received-a-cryptic-call-at-0530-hrs/m-p/167625#M80897</link>
      <description>&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;   &lt;DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Hi All&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt; &lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;I am looking for suggestions on how to handle this.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt; &lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;I received a message on my machine 5:30 am from an individual that did not identify himself or company. He only stated "Call me back I have a package for you."  &lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I'd have called back from a different, blocked phone with something along the lines of, "What the (bleep) were you thinking, calling on my home line?  The Feds are all over that one.  They can tell you my favorite pizza toppings, for (bleep's) sake!  Rocco's gonna go ape(bleep) when he hears about it.  You want us to find a new supplier, you (bleep)ing moron?"&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;That would give them some pause for thought.  But then again, I have a warped sense of humor...</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 02:53:16 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-03-01T02:53:16Z</dc:date>
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