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    <title>topic What constitutes permissible purpose...? CBCInnovis Hell in Mortgage Loans</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Okay guys.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Am I losing my mind or am I just screwed?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Quick backstory - applied for a mortgage with Guaranteed Rate back in May of this year. &amp;nbsp;Five times from the initial application to the funding, they did hard pulls, and then two times after closing they've done hard pulls.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;I tried disputing with the three credit bureaus - but they tell me to contact CBCInnovis (credit furnisher for Guaranteed Rate). CBC Innovis says to contact Guaranteed Rate. &amp;nbsp;Guaranteed Rate says to contact CBCInnovis.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;I finally got someone in the executive team at CBCInnovis to tell me that the compliance manager at Guaranteed Rate said they had permissible pupose for all credit pulls because I submitted the initial application - which I cannot believe is true. &amp;nbsp;My attorney seems to think this is NOT permissible purpose. &amp;nbsp;The woman at CBC said that because Guaranteed Rate sent them that yes, I did apply (in the original date in May), was getting a loan, that they could run it every day without recourse.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Thoughts? &amp;nbsp;I'm still fighting it - but wondering if it is a losing battle.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Oh, and for those who say that all mortgage inquiries in a 30 day period count as one for scoring - while yes, that is true - other creditors just see a bunch of inquiries (and have been declined due to it).&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2016 16:51:41 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>0REDSOX7</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2016-09-15T16:51:41Z</dc:date>
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      <title>What constitutes permissible purpose...? CBCInnovis Hell</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Mortgage-Loans/What-constitutes-permissible-purpose-CBCInnovis-Hell/m-p/4748303#M198611</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Okay guys.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Am I losing my mind or am I just screwed?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Quick backstory - applied for a mortgage with Guaranteed Rate back in May of this year. &amp;nbsp;Five times from the initial application to the funding, they did hard pulls, and then two times after closing they've done hard pulls.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;I tried disputing with the three credit bureaus - but they tell me to contact CBCInnovis (credit furnisher for Guaranteed Rate). CBC Innovis says to contact Guaranteed Rate. &amp;nbsp;Guaranteed Rate says to contact CBCInnovis.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;I finally got someone in the executive team at CBCInnovis to tell me that the compliance manager at Guaranteed Rate said they had permissible pupose for all credit pulls because I submitted the initial application - which I cannot believe is true. &amp;nbsp;My attorney seems to think this is NOT permissible purpose. &amp;nbsp;The woman at CBC said that because Guaranteed Rate sent them that yes, I did apply (in the original date in May), was getting a loan, that they could run it every day without recourse.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Thoughts? &amp;nbsp;I'm still fighting it - but wondering if it is a losing battle.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Oh, and for those who say that all mortgage inquiries in a 30 day period count as one for scoring - while yes, that is true - other creditors just see a bunch of inquiries (and have been declined due to it).&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2016 16:51:41 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>0REDSOX7</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-09-15T16:51:41Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: What constitutes permissible purpose...? CBCInnovis Hell</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Mortgage-Loans/What-constitutes-permissible-purpose-CBCInnovis-Hell/m-p/4748364#M198615</link>
      <description>I would think that after closing and the loan has been funded there would be no reason to HP you.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Here is what the FCRA lists as permissible purposes for pulling a credit report.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;•when you apply for credit, or when a creditor is reviewing or taking collection action on your existing account&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;•when a potential creditor or insurer intends to extend you offers of credit or insurance (limited use)&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;•when you apply for insurance&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;•employment-related purposes (hiring and firing), only when you give that employer permission to do so&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;•when a court or federal grand jury orders it&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;•when you apply for certain government benefits or licenses that require a review of your financial background, and&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;•when you initiate a business transaction and there is a “legitimate business need” for your credit report that relates to that deal.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Hopefully someone with more knowledge than myself can help you out. Try posting something on the general credit or credit scoring boards. Some other members have a good bit of knowledge on the subject but may not make it over to the mortgage boards.&lt;BR /&gt;Best of luck!</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2016 17:49:54 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-09-15T17:49:54Z</dc:date>
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