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    <title>topic Re: Citizens Bank HELOC Preapproval letter! in Mortgage Loans</title>
    <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Mortgage-Loans/Citizens-Bank-HELOC-Preapproval-letter/m-p/6098911#M242472</link>
    <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1087589"&gt;@Pit-Smoker&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hey all:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm out of the Garden (yeah, again. :-(&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;)&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;but I received a HELOC preapp in the mail from Citizens Bank, who is one of my Banks, and I had a reasonable exchange with an LO.&amp;nbsp; Ultimately, I've been conditionally approved for this HELOC, which will really help me finally oust this debt and pay it all down much faster.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Could someone please tell me how a HELOC is treated in the eyes of your portfolio?&amp;nbsp; Is this like a credit card-- that must remain under preferably 89/66/49/29% UITL (or whatever the numbers are)... or is it treated more like a real Mortgage where it's kind of expected that a new loan would be sitting at about 99%UTIL for a while?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks!&amp;nbsp; I'm off to adjust my Sig-- if I remember how!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My best to all!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I see you wanted to refi your house. Did you think about doing a refi cash out?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2020 02:38:07 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Harvey26</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2020-08-04T02:38:07Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Citizens Bank HELOC Preapproval letter!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Mortgage-Loans/Citizens-Bank-HELOC-Preapproval-letter/m-p/6098800#M242466</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hey all:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm out of the Garden (yeah, again. :-(&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;)&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;but I received a HELOC preapp in the mail from Citizens Bank, who is one of my Banks, and I had a reasonable exchange with an LO.&amp;nbsp; Ultimately, I've been conditionally approved for this HELOC, which will really help me finally oust this debt and pay it all down much faster.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Could someone please tell me how a HELOC is treated in the eyes of your portfolio?&amp;nbsp; Is this like a credit card-- that must remain under preferably 89/66/49/29% UITL (or whatever the numbers are)... or is it treated more like a real Mortgage where it's kind of expected that a new loan would be sitting at about 99%UTIL for a while?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks!&amp;nbsp; I'm off to adjust my Sig-- if I remember how!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My best to all!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2020 00:20:46 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Pit-Smoker</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-08-04T00:20:46Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Citizens Bank HELOC Preapproval letter!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Mortgage-Loans/Citizens-Bank-HELOC-Preapproval-letter/m-p/6098807#M242467</link>
      <description>Congratulations on your conditional pre-approval.</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2020 00:25:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Mortgage-Loans/Citizens-Bank-HELOC-Preapproval-letter/m-p/6098807#M242467</guid>
      <dc:creator>AllZero</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-08-04T00:25:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Citizens Bank HELOC Preapproval letter!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Mortgage-Loans/Citizens-Bank-HELOC-Preapproval-letter/m-p/6098808#M242468</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks!! :-)&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2020 00:25:46 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Mortgage-Loans/Citizens-Bank-HELOC-Preapproval-letter/m-p/6098808#M242468</guid>
      <dc:creator>Pit-Smoker</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-08-04T00:25:46Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Citizens Bank HELOC Preapproval letter!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Mortgage-Loans/Citizens-Bank-HELOC-Preapproval-letter/m-p/6098911#M242472</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1087589"&gt;@Pit-Smoker&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hey all:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm out of the Garden (yeah, again. :-(&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;)&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;but I received a HELOC preapp in the mail from Citizens Bank, who is one of my Banks, and I had a reasonable exchange with an LO.&amp;nbsp; Ultimately, I've been conditionally approved for this HELOC, which will really help me finally oust this debt and pay it all down much faster.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Could someone please tell me how a HELOC is treated in the eyes of your portfolio?&amp;nbsp; Is this like a credit card-- that must remain under preferably 89/66/49/29% UITL (or whatever the numbers are)... or is it treated more like a real Mortgage where it's kind of expected that a new loan would be sitting at about 99%UTIL for a while?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks!&amp;nbsp; I'm off to adjust my Sig-- if I remember how!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My best to all!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I see you wanted to refi your house. Did you think about doing a refi cash out?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2020 02:38:07 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Mortgage-Loans/Citizens-Bank-HELOC-Preapproval-letter/m-p/6098911#M242472</guid>
      <dc:creator>Harvey26</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-08-04T02:38:07Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Citizens Bank HELOC Preapproval letter!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Mortgage-Loans/Citizens-Bank-HELOC-Preapproval-letter/m-p/6098917#M242473</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;DW and I Tried that option in November and were summarily denied.&amp;nbsp; The HELOC pre-qual was a pretty welcome sign, to be honest.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Theoretically, we'll work to consolidate any indebtedness here and the First mortgage, later, in a non-FHA conventional loan, which will also allow us to get out from under the FHA PMI.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;One step at a time...&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Impatiently but steadfast.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2020 02:45:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Mortgage-Loans/Citizens-Bank-HELOC-Preapproval-letter/m-p/6098917#M242473</guid>
      <dc:creator>Pit-Smoker</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-08-04T02:45:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Citizens Bank HELOC Preapproval letter!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Mortgage-Loans/Citizens-Bank-HELOC-Preapproval-letter/m-p/6117288#M243457</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi all-- Still wondering if anyone knows how UTIL in a HELOC is assessed by the Credit Bureaus:&amp;nbsp; E.g., when it's maxed out, does it count as BAD, like if a Credit Card were maxed out, or is it seen more like a personal loan, which is expected to start at MAX and is then paid down over time?&amp;nbsp; Thank you!&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2020 17:31:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Mortgage-Loans/Citizens-Bank-HELOC-Preapproval-letter/m-p/6117288#M243457</guid>
      <dc:creator>Pit-Smoker</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-08-25T17:31:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Citizens Bank HELOC Preapproval letter!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Mortgage-Loans/Citizens-Bank-HELOC-Preapproval-letter/m-p/6117296#M243458</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1087589"&gt;@Pit-Smoker&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hi all-- Still wondering if anyone knows how UTIL in a HELOC is assessed by the Credit Bureaus:&amp;nbsp; E.g., when it's maxed out, does it count as BAD, like if a Credit Card were maxed out, or is it seen more like a personal loan, which is expected to start at MAX and is then paid down over time?&amp;nbsp; Thank you!&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am pretty sure HELOCs are treated the same as revolving accounts.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2020 17:41:29 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Mortgage-Loans/Citizens-Bank-HELOC-Preapproval-letter/m-p/6117296#M243458</guid>
      <dc:creator>VALoanMaster</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-08-25T17:41:29Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Citizens Bank HELOC Preapproval letter!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Mortgage-Loans/Citizens-Bank-HELOC-Preapproval-letter/m-p/6117300#M243459</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you!&amp;nbsp; I will keep this firmly in mind.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2020 17:46:04 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Mortgage-Loans/Citizens-Bank-HELOC-Preapproval-letter/m-p/6117300#M243459</guid>
      <dc:creator>Pit-Smoker</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-08-25T17:46:04Z</dc:date>
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