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    <title>topic Re: HSBC statement &amp;amp; CA (Collection Receivable) statement  - who do I pay in Rebuilding Your Credit</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;HSBC is tough to deal with. Try the PFDs but after a couple months of multiple letters, you may be better off interest-wise to PIF and then start GWing them. It's possible to get a PFD with HSBC-backed cards, but it won't be immediate.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;ETA...ignore the CA because they don't own the debt, but the DV was a good move. Send the PFDs to the OC.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 04:16:51 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>llecs</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-07-08T04:16:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>HSBC statement &amp; CA (Collection Receivable) statement  - who do I pay</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Rebuilding-Your-Credit/HSBC-statement-amp-CA-Collection-Receivable-statement-who-do-I/m-p/691899#M112689</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I received a statement from HSBC - Best Buy.&amp;nbsp; Account is 3 months in arrears - I messed up &amp;amp; want to fix.&amp;nbsp; I then received statement from Collection Receivables.&amp;nbsp; I did a DV.&amp;nbsp; I received copy of credit card request from Collection Receivables and a letter saying to contact them&amp;nbsp;to make suitable arrangments.&amp;nbsp; 2 days later&amp;nbsp;I then received statement from HSBC.&amp;nbsp; I want to fix this - I got a copy of my credit report&amp;nbsp; and the account is "account closed by credit grantor" 120 days past due.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Can I do a PFD with the original creditor or do I have to deal with the CA.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If I can do a PFD with the CA (not currently showing on account) - I'm assuming the HSBC will still show up.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I know I messed up - i moved and didn't take care of my business.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What is the best path?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 00:56:06 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-07-08T00:56:06Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: HSBC statement &amp; CA (Collection Receivable) statement  - who do I pay</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Rebuilding-Your-Credit/HSBC-statement-amp-CA-Collection-Receivable-statement-who-do-I/m-p/691941#M112701</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;HSBC is tough to deal with. Try the PFDs but after a couple months of multiple letters, you may be better off interest-wise to PIF and then start GWing them. It's possible to get a PFD with HSBC-backed cards, but it won't be immediate.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;ETA...ignore the CA because they don't own the debt, but the DV was a good move. Send the PFDs to the OC.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 04:16:51 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Rebuilding-Your-Credit/HSBC-statement-amp-CA-Collection-Receivable-statement-who-do-I/m-p/691941#M112701</guid>
      <dc:creator>llecs</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-07-08T04:16:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: HSBC statement &amp; CA (Collection Receivable) statement  - who do I pay</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Rebuilding-Your-Credit/HSBC-statement-amp-CA-Collection-Receivable-statement-who-do-I/m-p/691987#M112713</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;The apparent facts are that you had an account with the OC that went 120-days late, and was closed by the OC.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The OC referred it for collection, and you received a collection notice from the CA, but the CA has yet to post to your CR.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You want to do two things.&amp;nbsp; You want to pay the debt, and also want, in exchange or that payment, &amp;nbsp;to get deletion of the prior derogs in your CR.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;As for paying the debt, unfortunately, the information you have provided is not sufficient for advise on this matter.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It depends on whether the OC still owns the debt.&amp;nbsp; Let me elaborate.&amp;nbsp; When an OC has bad debt, they can place it out for collection in one of two ways.&amp;nbsp; They can retain ownership of the debt, and simply license a debt collector&amp;nbsp;to conduct collection activities on their behalf.&amp;nbsp; OR, they can just outright sell all legal ownership of the debt to the debt collector, after which the OC can never receive any payments.&amp;nbsp; They no longer own it.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You must first know who currently owns the debt.&amp;nbsp; Pick up the phone, and ask the OC.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So who you can offer a PIF or PFD to depends on legal ownership.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;IF THE OC STILL OWNS THE DEBT:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Yes, you can PIF or make a PFD offer to the OC.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If they (the OC) accepts, any PFD agreement you reach with them only extends to their own OC account reporting.&amp;nbsp; If the CA has also contacted your or reported, you can pay them.&amp;nbsp; But the OC cannot agree to any deletions by the CA, and the CA cant agree to any deletions of reportings made by the OC..&amp;nbsp; So any CA reporting,&amp;nbsp;even with a PFD with the OC, would not be affected&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;IF THE CA NOW OWNS THE DEBT&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You cannot then reach any PIF or PFD agreement with the OC,&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; They no&amp;nbsp;longer have legal standing.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If you then get a PFD from the CA, they&amp;nbsp;have no authority to agree to the deletion of any prior reporting made by the OC.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You say the CA has not yet reported.&amp;nbsp; So any PFD to them now is asking for deletion of something that does not exist.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; KInda useless.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Pay before the CA posts.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 06:14:35 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>RobertEG</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-07-08T06:14:35Z</dc:date>
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