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    <title>topic Re: HOW TO DV WHEN CA IS NOT ON CR in Rebuilding Your Credit</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;You are kinda in a bind.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;IF the alleged debt collector never reported to a CRA, never had any intial communication with you, and never sent you a collection/dunnng notice, you cant DV them.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Any prior relationship that this debt collector may have had with the OC is just between them and the OC.&amp;nbsp; No actions under either the FCRA or the&amp;nbsp;FDCPA can be intitiated by you until contact with a CA.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Until you get some type of initial communication from a debt collector (see FDCPA 809(a)), such as a phone call, a collection notice, or a post to your CR, all you can do is to continue to pester the OC as to how to pay this debt.&amp;nbsp; The OC personnel that you have been talking to are apparently not giving you current status on their collection activies.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I would call the OC and ask to speak with a supervisor.&amp;nbsp; Ask them specifically if they still own the debt.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 01 Oct 2010 04:40:01 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>RobertEG</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-10-01T04:40:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>HOW TO DV WHEN CA IS NOT ON CR</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Rebuilding-Your-Credit/HOW-TO-DV-WHEN-CA-IS-NOT-ON-CR/m-p/748062#M120163</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi, first time posting here. my question is I have a closed account with hsbc that is reporting 2475.00 and I tried to call them to set up a pfd or settlement offer and they would not discuss with me and&amp;nbsp;gave me a number of a collection agency to call. When I called the collection agency that the hsbc gave me they stated that they no longer had it and gave me the number back to hsbc.&amp;nbsp;and &amp;nbsp;the collection agency is not reporting on my CR.&amp;nbsp;So after reading on the forums I was wondering if I should do a DV letter first, if so who do I send it to?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 19:58:22 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-09-30T19:58:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: HOW TO DV WHEN CA IS NOT ON CR</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Rebuilding-Your-Credit/HOW-TO-DV-WHEN-CA-IS-NOT-ON-CR/m-p/748150#M120178</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;If the collection agency states that they no longer have the account and it's not on your report.. Then there is technically no one to DV.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 22:15:38 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>203bravo</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-09-30T22:15:38Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: HOW TO DV WHEN CA IS NOT ON CR</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Rebuilding-Your-Credit/HOW-TO-DV-WHEN-CA-IS-NOT-ON-CR/m-p/748384#M120212</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;You are kinda in a bind.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;IF the alleged debt collector never reported to a CRA, never had any intial communication with you, and never sent you a collection/dunnng notice, you cant DV them.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Any prior relationship that this debt collector may have had with the OC is just between them and the OC.&amp;nbsp; No actions under either the FCRA or the&amp;nbsp;FDCPA can be intitiated by you until contact with a CA.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Until you get some type of initial communication from a debt collector (see FDCPA 809(a)), such as a phone call, a collection notice, or a post to your CR, all you can do is to continue to pester the OC as to how to pay this debt.&amp;nbsp; The OC personnel that you have been talking to are apparently not giving you current status on their collection activies.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I would call the OC and ask to speak with a supervisor.&amp;nbsp; Ask them specifically if they still own the debt.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 01 Oct 2010 04:40:01 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Rebuilding-Your-Credit/HOW-TO-DV-WHEN-CA-IS-NOT-ON-CR/m-p/748384#M120212</guid>
      <dc:creator>RobertEG</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-10-01T04:40:01Z</dc:date>
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