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    <title>topic Re: Wells Fargo Auto Loan charge off in Rebuilding Your Credit</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;both these vehicles were financed in 2007&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 03:00:14 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2011-03-01T03:00:14Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Wells Fargo Auto Loan charge off</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Rebuilding-Your-Credit/Wells-Fargo-Auto-Loan-charge-off/m-p/855472#M131106</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I had two vehicles financed through wells fargo auto finance and one of the vehicles I fell behind on payments and I returned the vehicle.&amp;nbsp; I never recieved any paperwork on the repossession.&amp;nbsp; I just continued paying on my other vehicle and paid off the other vehicle.&amp;nbsp; I was told over the phone that I have x-amount of days to come up with the full purchase price of 21k.&amp;nbsp; I never did that, didn't have the money and never recieved any paperwork saying how much I owed.&amp;nbsp;Now, 2011, I read my credit bureau reports, and experian says, "current closed" payments after charge-off.&amp;nbsp; Transunion states, charge-off/payment after charge-off.&amp;nbsp; And Equifax reads current status charge-off/sold transferred to another lender in April of 2009.&amp;nbsp; What does all this mean? They never sent me anything regarding it was sold, for how much, or if I owe any money.&amp;nbsp; I don't want to call them for fear that they will try to collect or file a suit.&amp;nbsp; Should I leave well enough alone? I'm just curious cause they haven't made any attempts to collect the money from me or the co-signer.&amp;nbsp; also, i am wondering if the company who purchased the vehicle is a collector, i have had no new collections on my report since the wells fargo recovery.&amp;nbsp; its due to fall off in 2014, another question is, can the company who purchased the vehicle report the collection in the near future and start the whole 7 year process over again?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 00:46:51 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-03-01T00:46:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Wells Fargo Auto Loan charge off</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Rebuilding-Your-Credit/Wells-Fargo-Auto-Loan-charge-off/m-p/855494#M131112</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#3366FF"&gt;You ask many questions. &amp;nbsp;I even have a few...&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;I&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT color="#3366FF"&gt; &lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;had two vehicles financed through wells fargo auto finance and one of the vehicles I fell behind on payments and I returned the vehicle. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF"&gt;Did you get a receipt or any paperwork from the place you returned the vehicle too? &amp;nbsp; Something, anything to prove the vehicle was returned? &amp;nbsp;Who did you return it to? &amp;nbsp;The dealership or to a Wells Fargo branch?&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#3366FF"&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;I never recieved any paperwork on the repossession. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF"&gt;Are you referring to after you returned the vehicle? &amp;nbsp;Did you move after your returned the vehicle?&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#3366FF"&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;I just continued paying on my other vehicle and paid off the other vehicle. &amp;nbsp; &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF"&gt;Did you receive clear title to vehicle #2, which you paid off?&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#3366FF"&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;I was told over the phone that I have x-amount of days to come up with the full purchase price of 21k.&amp;nbsp; I never did that, didn't have the money and never recieved any paperwork saying how much I owed. &amp;nbsp; &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF"&gt;When did you receive the call saying you needed to cough up 21k for vehicle #1? &amp;nbsp;Was it a few days after you returned the car? &amp;nbsp;Was it a year later? &amp;nbsp; Who &amp;nbsp;make the call - them to you, or you to them?&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#3366FF"&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;Now, 2011, I read my credit bureau reports, and experian says, "current closed" payments after charge-off. &amp;nbsp; &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF"&gt;I believe this means that the account is closed, they charged off the balance, and you made a few payments after the charge off. &amp;nbsp;Did you? &amp;nbsp;Is it possible that any money from vehicle #2 was applied to vehicle #1?&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#3366FF"&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;Transunion states, charge-off/payment after charge-off. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF"&gt;Same.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#3366FF"&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;And Equifax reads current status charge-off/sold transferred to another lender in April of 2009. &amp;nbsp; &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF"&gt;I believe this means that the lender, Wells Fargo, charged off the debt, and sold it collections (another lender).&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#3366FF"&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;What does all this mean? They never sent me anything regarding it was sold, for how much, or if I owe any money. &amp;nbsp; &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF"&gt;Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. &amp;nbsp;They would consider it your responsibility to follow up and make things right. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#3366FF"&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;I don't want to call them for fear that they will try to collect or file a suit. &amp;nbsp; &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF"&gt;They could do this with or without you calling them.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#3366FF"&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;Should I leave well enough alone? &amp;nbsp; &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF"&gt;That depends. &amp;nbsp; Some people on this site would say leave it alone. &amp;nbsp;Others would say pay it off. &amp;nbsp;What do you want to do? &amp;nbsp;Make right on the debt?&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#3366FF"&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;I'm just curious cause they haven't made any attempts to collect the money from me or the co-signer.&amp;nbsp; also, i am wondering if the company who purchased the vehicle is a collector, i have had no new collections on my report since the wells fargo recovery. &amp;nbsp; &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF"&gt;Hard to say. &amp;nbsp;If you call Wells Fargo, explain that you would like to take care of this debt, IF there is a leftover balance after they resold the car. &amp;nbsp; Ask them to send all the paperwork, to include copies of the vehicle being resold, and the price it sold for. &amp;nbsp;Once you have the documents, you can negotiate a payment plan.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#3366FF"&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;its due to fall off in 2014, another question is, can the company who purchased the vehicle report the collection in the near future and start the whole 7 year process over again? &amp;nbsp; &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF"&gt;The charge off status will stay on the credit report for about 7 years after it was charged off. &amp;nbsp;A CA can report for 7-7.5 years after DOFD. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#3366FF"&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF"&gt;What state are you in? &amp;nbsp;What were the terms of your purchase? &amp;nbsp;Returning the vehicle? &amp;nbsp;Did you have an agreement that the bank would take back the vehicle?&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 01:32:52 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>IOBA</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-03-01T01:32:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Wells Fargo Auto Loan charge off</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Rebuilding-Your-Credit/Wells-Fargo-Auto-Loan-charge-off/m-p/855598#M131121</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000ff"&gt;Did you get a receipt or any paperwork from the place you returned the vehicle too?&amp;nbsp;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;No I didnt recieve any&amp;nbsp;paperwork from the&amp;nbsp;ford dealership.&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Something, anything to prove the vehicle was returned? &amp;nbsp;Who did you return it to?&amp;nbsp;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;I&amp;nbsp;gave the vehicle to a local&amp;nbsp;towing company to have them forward it to wells fargo as per wells fargo request.&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;The dealership or to a Wells Fargo branch? &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;to a wells fargo branch.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000ff"&gt;Are you referring to after you returned the vehicle? &lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;Yes, returned the&amp;nbsp;vehicle and waited&amp;nbsp;for any&amp;nbsp;paperwork that&amp;nbsp;should have followed. &lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Did you move after your returned the vehicle? &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;I have been at the same address for 10 years.&amp;nbsp; Even when I was paying on my 2nd vehicle, i was recieving statements to my address.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;FONT color="#0000ff"&gt;Did you receive clear title to vehicle #2, which you paid off?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;Correct, the title is clear and is in my name.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;FONT color="#0000ff"&gt;When did you receive the call saying you needed to cough up 21k for vehicle #1?&amp;nbsp;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;I called them a week after the repo, haven't had any communication since.&amp;nbsp; They&amp;nbsp;told me it would be up for auction, and if it covered the&amp;nbsp;balance, i wouldnt have to pay, but&amp;nbsp;if it didnt, i would have to pay the balance.&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000ff"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;FONT color="#3366ff"&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000ff"&gt;What state are you in? &amp;nbsp;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;Alaska. &lt;/FONT&gt;What were the terms of your purchase?&amp;nbsp;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;72 Month agreement, if i defaulted,&amp;nbsp;they would sell the vehicle and I would have to pay the remaining balance owed, because these vehicles sell far below actual cash value. &lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;Returning the vehicle? &amp;nbsp;Did you have an agreement that the bank would take back the vehicle, &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;Yes.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; As far as paying the off the loan, i know i defaulted on the loan, but I don't see myself paying 21k for no vehicle in return.&amp;nbsp; i mean it has been a number of years, my credit score has since recovered, it just seems that if another collector bought the debt, that i would see it on my credit report by now, or have collectors calling about this debt.&amp;nbsp; on my experian, it says closed current, equifax says its sold/charge off, and transunion states payments made after charge off which i have not done, and when i was paying off the 2nd vehicle, no payments were made to the first loan.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 02:55:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Rebuilding-Your-Credit/Wells-Fargo-Auto-Loan-charge-off/m-p/855598#M131121</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-03-01T02:55:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Wells Fargo Auto Loan charge off</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Rebuilding-Your-Credit/Wells-Fargo-Auto-Loan-charge-off/m-p/855602#M131122</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;both these vehicles were financed in 2007&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 03:00:14 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Rebuilding-Your-Credit/Wells-Fargo-Auto-Loan-charge-off/m-p/855602#M131122</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-03-01T03:00:14Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Wells Fargo Auto Loan charge off</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Rebuilding-Your-Credit/Wells-Fargo-Auto-Loan-charge-off/m-p/855888#M131151</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#3366FF"&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;I'm just curious cause they haven't made any attempts to collect the money from me or the co-signer.&amp;nbsp; also, i am wondering if the company who purchased the vehicle is a collector, i have had no new collections on my report since the wells fargo recovery. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF"&gt;Hard to say. &amp;nbsp;If you call Wells Fargo, explain that you would like to take care of this debt, IF there is a leftover balance after they resold the car. &amp;nbsp; Ask them to send all the paperwork, to include copies of the vehicle being resold, and the price it sold for. &amp;nbsp;Once you have the documents, you can negotiate a payment plan.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#3366FF"&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;its due to fall off in 2014, another question is, can the company who purchased the vehicle report the collection in the near future and start the whole 7 year process over again? &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF"&gt;The charge off status will stay on the credit report for about 7 years after it was charged off. &amp;nbsp;A CA can report for 7-7.5 years after DOFD. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT&gt;&lt;FONT&gt;&lt;FONT color="#FF6600"&gt;My suggestion is to call and get the paperwork. &amp;nbsp;It sounds like you are ready to take care of the debt. &amp;nbsp; Since you are initiating the resolution of this debt, Wells Fargo may be more willing to work with you for &amp;nbsp;PFD. &amp;nbsp;Figure out what you can afford to pay before you call.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:50:50 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>IOBA</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-03-01T16:50:50Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Wells Fargo Auto Loan charge off</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Rebuilding-Your-Credit/Wells-Fargo-Auto-Loan-charge-off/m-p/856550#M131220</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks for the help,&amp;nbsp;I will contact them and see what I owe, trying to rebuild the bridges that i burned in when i was 18.&amp;nbsp; I am now 23 and have paid all debts except for this one, looking to be in the 700 club by august-janaury 2012.&amp;nbsp; Current transunion fico is 650, experian fako 650&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 02:55:57 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Rebuilding-Your-Credit/Wells-Fargo-Auto-Loan-charge-off/m-p/856550#M131220</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-03-02T02:55:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Wells Fargo Auto Loan charge off</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Rebuilding-Your-Credit/Wells-Fargo-Auto-Loan-charge-off/m-p/856562#M131222</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#FF6600"&gt;Think positive. &amp;nbsp;Be positive. &amp;nbsp;&lt;img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 03:23:50 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>IOBA</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-03-02T03:23:50Z</dc:date>
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