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    <title>topic Re: AT&amp;amp;T Collections - Credence Resource Management in Rebuilding Your Credit</title>
    <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Rebuilding-Your-Credit/AT-amp-T-Collections-Credence-Resource-Management/m-p/5837956#M605195</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Think positive and hope AT&amp;amp;T will take payment in lieu of recalling the debt. Good Luck! Keep us updated.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2019 00:22:19 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>FireMedic1</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2019-12-11T00:22:19Z</dc:date>
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      <title>AT&amp;T Collections - Credence Resource Management</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Rebuilding-Your-Credit/AT-amp-T-Collections-Credence-Resource-Management/m-p/5837798#M605187</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi Team,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;After reading the forum for some time a lot of people advised against&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;ever&amp;nbsp;&lt;/STRONG&gt;paying a CA for Verizon, AT&amp;amp;T, Dish, Etc. Trying to follow these instructions, I've been on the phone with AT&amp;amp;T for approx 3 hours with them having a hard time finding my debt. After some sweet talking with a special representative, she was able to pull my account up and genuinenly wanted to help me get this resolved. Here's what I learned from her:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;After 2 years, the account gets sold and purged from their system&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;The CRM tool that they use to pull up debts, won't find these old debts and they need to use a different system&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Because of this, they can't generate a ticket to have the debt recalled from CA&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;AT&amp;amp;T is able to take payment, but unable to recall the debt&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Which leads me to my question(s):&lt;/P&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;I was able to get the number of the team who will be able to pull this debt up and get it paid&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;What happens if I pay this with them not being able to recall it?&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Can I still dispute Credence Resource Management and have it deleted instead of marked as "paid;closed"&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Here's the Debt Information:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Payment Info&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;DIV class="list-item"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="list-item-label"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Original loan amount&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;$3xx.xx&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class="list-item"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="list-item-label"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Balance&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;$3xx.xx&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class="list-item"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="list-item-label"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Updated on&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Aug 1, 2016&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class="list-item"&gt;Opened on &lt;STRONG&gt;Jun 1, 2016&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class="list-item"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class="list-item"&gt;Thoughts on what I should do?&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 10 Dec 2019 21:56:24 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Rebuilding-Your-Credit/AT-amp-T-Collections-Credence-Resource-Management/m-p/5837798#M605187</guid>
      <dc:creator>SoDenied</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-12-10T21:56:24Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: AT&amp;T Collections - Credence Resource Management</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Rebuilding-Your-Credit/AT-amp-T-Collections-Credence-Resource-Management/m-p/5837956#M605195</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Think positive and hope AT&amp;amp;T will take payment in lieu of recalling the debt. Good Luck! Keep us updated.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2019 00:22:19 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Rebuilding-Your-Credit/AT-amp-T-Collections-Credence-Resource-Management/m-p/5837956#M605195</guid>
      <dc:creator>FireMedic1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-12-11T00:22:19Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: AT&amp;T Collections - Credence Resource Management</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Rebuilding-Your-Credit/AT-amp-T-Collections-Credence-Resource-Management/m-p/5837998#M605197</link>
      <description>I suppose all you can do is pay AT&amp;amp;T, then wait for the update to your reports. Credence may self delete upon payment.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Alternatively, you can try and negotiate a PFD with Credence, but be sure to get it in writing.</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2019 01:06:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Rebuilding-Your-Credit/AT-amp-T-Collections-Credence-Resource-Management/m-p/5837998#M605197</guid>
      <dc:creator>OmarGB9</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-12-11T01:06:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: AT&amp;T Collections - Credence Resource Management</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Rebuilding-Your-Credit/AT-amp-T-Collections-Credence-Resource-Management/m-p/5838704#M605243</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;What happens if I make the payment to AT&amp;amp;T? Does Credence reserve the right to keep the account open on my credit report?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Should I make payment with AT&amp;amp;T and then Dispute Credence since there's really no longer a balance left?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2019 17:32:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Rebuilding-Your-Credit/AT-amp-T-Collections-Credence-Resource-Management/m-p/5838704#M605243</guid>
      <dc:creator>SoDenied</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-12-11T17:32:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: AT&amp;T Collections - Credence Resource Management</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Rebuilding-Your-Credit/AT-amp-T-Collections-Credence-Resource-Management/m-p/5838868#M605263</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;You say AT&amp;amp;T purge past due accounts. But look on your reports and see who owns the debt. If it was sold to the CA. AT&amp;amp;T cant recall it because they got paid from the CA and now they own it. Ask AT&amp;amp;T if they still own the debt and they are using a CA to collect for them. One clue is AT&amp;amp;T will accept payment so they may still own the debt.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2019 20:01:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Rebuilding-Your-Credit/AT-amp-T-Collections-Credence-Resource-Management/m-p/5838868#M605263</guid>
      <dc:creator>FireMedic1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-12-11T20:01:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: AT&amp;T Collections - Credence Resource Management</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Rebuilding-Your-Credit/AT-amp-T-Collections-Credence-Resource-Management/m-p/5838891#M605267</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;FireMedic, thanks so much for being so responsive... it's really appreicated.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;AT&amp;amp;T is willing to accept payment but their system won't allow them to recall the debt from CA.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;That's where I am at today.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So I figured Pay AT&amp;amp;T then dispute since CA can't verify it anymore - I just don't understand the process anymore&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2019 20:31:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Rebuilding-Your-Credit/AT-amp-T-Collections-Credence-Resource-Management/m-p/5838891#M605267</guid>
      <dc:creator>SoDenied</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-12-11T20:31:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: AT&amp;T Collections - Credence Resource Management</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Rebuilding-Your-Credit/AT-amp-T-Collections-Credence-Resource-Management/m-p/5839009#M605276</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Its whacky. But paid looks a whole lot better than owed and mostly it will quit updating each month.Your score will gradually increase after collection accounts are paid off because updates will stop.&amp;nbsp; You should not expect to see large and immediate gain from paying collections, that happens over time.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2019 22:12:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Rebuilding-Your-Credit/AT-amp-T-Collections-Credence-Resource-Management/m-p/5839009#M605276</guid>
      <dc:creator>FireMedic1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-12-11T22:12:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: AT&amp;T Collections - Credence Resource Management</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Rebuilding-Your-Credit/AT-amp-T-Collections-Credence-Resource-Management/m-p/5840003#M605324</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;The same thing happened to me.&amp;nbsp; AT&amp;amp;T took the payment but CRM held the debt.&amp;nbsp; I paid AT&amp;amp;T in full and CRM placed a note that I paid less than the full amount.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;I disputed it because for one I never paid CRM and I paid the entire amount owed. It eventually deleted off my reports.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 12 Dec 2019 18:06:44 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Rebuilding-Your-Credit/AT-amp-T-Collections-Credence-Resource-Management/m-p/5840003#M605324</guid>
      <dc:creator>Shawn19AL</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-12-12T18:06:44Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: AT&amp;T Collections - Credence Resource Management</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Rebuilding-Your-Credit/AT-amp-T-Collections-Credence-Resource-Management/m-p/5846009#M605627</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I went ahead and caved in and paid CRM. They told me policy states that eventually AT&amp;amp;T will recall the debt and it will eventually be deleted. I'll check in two months and dispute the record if it's still there.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Dec 2019 17:29:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Rebuilding-Your-Credit/AT-amp-T-Collections-Credence-Resource-Management/m-p/5846009#M605627</guid>
      <dc:creator>SoDenied</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-12-18T17:29:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: AT&amp;T Collections - Credence Resource Management</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Rebuilding-Your-Credit/AT-amp-T-Collections-Credence-Resource-Management/m-p/5846099#M605628</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Congrats. So it does looks like AT&amp;amp;T still owned it and they were just collecting for them. Keep us updated for future posters who may run across the same scenario.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Dec 2019 18:47:42 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>FireMedic1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-12-18T18:47:42Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: AT&amp;T Collections - Credence Resource Management</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Rebuilding-Your-Credit/AT-amp-T-Collections-Credence-Resource-Management/m-p/5905200#M609233</link>
      <description>Directv told me they wouldn’t budge on the payment unless I reconnected their services. I tried to negotiate a lower price but they told me I can do that directly with the CA.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I guess there’s some understanding there cause they would take my payment, but I didn’t want to get wrapped up into a bill that wasn’t worth it.</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Feb 2020 15:18:54 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Rebuilding-Your-Credit/AT-amp-T-Collections-Credence-Resource-Management/m-p/5905200#M609233</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-02-04T15:18:54Z</dc:date>
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