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    <title>topic Re: How much money does it take to exist these days? in SmorgasBoard</title>
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    <description>&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;cobra19 wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;at last.................The north shore of LI.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;cobra...South shore of LI&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 02:13:31 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>atlastontheroad</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-05-16T02:13:31Z</dc:date>
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      <title>How much money does it take to exist these days?</title>
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      <description>$500 a month, $1,500 a month, $3000 a month?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Someone wanting to make a fresh start, no debt, no transportation, no place to live, no medical. Totally from scratch with just the shirt on their back. Lest just say they have great credit. They still need money to pay for stuff. How much money do they need to make?</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 22:59:24 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-05-12T22:59:24Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How much money does it take to exist these days?</title>
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      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;ilovepizza wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;$500 a month, $1,500 a month, $3000 a month?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Someone wanting to make a fresh start, no debt, no transportation, no place to live, no medical. Totally from scratch with just the shirt on their back. Lest just say they have great credit. They still need money to pay for stuff. How much money do they need to make?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Depends on where the person were to live.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;I live in the DC area. Here's a monthly estimate, basic on a single person, assuming you had to finance home &amp;amp; car:&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Home $2500&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Car $350&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Utilities $500 (gas, ele, basic phone, trash, water)&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Car. Ins. $100&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Food $300&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Gasoline $200&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Clothing $100&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Medical $300&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Misc. $100&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;TOTAL $4450&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;That's what you need, but you have to pay taxes....&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;FICA = $504.90&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;W/Holding @ 25% of total pay = $1650&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;TOTAL Gross pay $6600 is needed each month or $79,200 annually.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;All this excludes tithing, savings, other expenses like cable, internet, $$ for a computer, cell phone, car or home maintenance, bank charges, ATM fees, interest on anything finances other than car or home, property taxes, local taxes, registration fees, gifts, gym memberships, etc.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Of course, if that person were married it won't cost all of that. You wouldn't have to buy 2 homes, double utilities, etc.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;To add........DW and I estimate we need $108k or $9k monthly to function without stress. Not there yet, but soon will be. &lt;img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Message Edited by llecs on &lt;SPAN class="date_text"&gt;05-12-2008&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="time_text"&gt;08:30 PM&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Message Edited by llecs on &lt;SPAN class="date_text"&gt;05-12-2008&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="time_text"&gt;08:31 PM&lt;/SPAN&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 00:31:04 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>llecs</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-05-13T00:31:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How much money does it take to exist these days?</title>
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      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Richmond,&amp;nbsp;Virginia, based on my experience:&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Using similar numbers, adjusted for locality:&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Housing: $700-1800 depending on neighborhood and apartment rent vs. owning&amp;nbsp;home&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Car: $200-$350 used vs. new&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Utilities: Can't speak to using gas, but my all-electric house averages $112/mo.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;$50/water&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;$40/phone&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;$15/trash&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Car ins. $100&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Food $300&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Gasoline $350 (the way gas prices are going, plus Richmond has a lousy not-worthy-of-the-name "mass transit" )- so you're driving &lt;EM&gt;everywhere...&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Clothing $100&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Medical $100-300 (the lower number if you can get&amp;nbsp;health through your job)&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Misc. $100&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Totals: $2167- $3617 net takehome.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;-MsMS&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Edited to remove random smiley... weird.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Message Edited by MsMS on &lt;SPAN class="date_text"&gt;05-14-2008&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="time_text"&gt;06:09 AM&lt;/SPAN&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 13:09:58 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-05-14T13:09:58Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;LI, NY - 10 k/month&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 14:23:20 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-05-14T14:23:20Z</dc:date>
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&lt;DIV&gt;I live in Hawaii and it's far and away the most expensive place to live in the country.&lt;/DIV&gt;
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&lt;DIV&gt;I live in a 1175 sqft two bedroom house on a 5,000 sqft lot. Rent is over 2K and the house was appraised at 765K.&lt;/DIV&gt;
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&lt;DIV&gt;Monthly Expenses:&lt;/DIV&gt;
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&lt;DIV&gt;Electricity w/o ac is $290 &lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;Water/Sewer is $160&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;Cable and internet is $180&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;Food is almost $1000 (for three of us)&lt;/DIV&gt;
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&lt;DIV&gt;My DW and I have been thinking hard about relocating, but it's hard to leave home (Hawaii) and there is no place in this country that is warm the whole year. It's very sad!&lt;/DIV&gt;
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      <pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 20:13:07 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>fused</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-05-15T20:13:07Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;No RE taxes? Taxes in my neck of the woods are&amp;nbsp;$1,458.33/month. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 20:47:49 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-05-15T20:47:49Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;cobra19 wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;No RE taxes? Taxes in my neck of the woods are&amp;nbsp;$1,458.33/month. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;We must be neighbors, mine is just slightly lower.&amp;nbsp; But I have a very small house on a postage stamp sized lot (lots of room for gardening, my "cheap" pastime).&amp;nbsp; When I open my tax bill I simply view it as "gee, there's the private school tuition bill for the kidlet."&amp;nbsp; What I'll do when she's done with high school, I have no idea.&amp;nbsp; I like it here and by then the house will be improved to the point where I won't want to leave!&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Nassau County isn't as idyllic as Hawaii, but I love the smell of the ocean in the morning, drive 2.9 miles each way to work and can't beat the 30 minute commute to the city for fun.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;My only real complaint is that we don't get enough snow. &amp;nbsp;I love winter.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;10k a month would be nice.&amp;nbsp; I'm living on considerably less than that as a teacher.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;atlast....counting blessings helps&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 21:47:47 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>atlastontheroad</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-05-15T21:47:47Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;Hawai RE taxes are high!&lt;/DIV&gt;
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&lt;DIV&gt;Annual rate for a homeowner with a home priced at Hawaii's median of 625K would equal:&lt;/DIV&gt;
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&lt;DIV&gt;a whopping $6,882 a year&lt;/DIV&gt;
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      <pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 22:09:45 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>fused</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-05-15T22:09:45Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;at last.................The north shore of LI.&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 23:37:44 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-05-15T23:37:44Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;cobra19 wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;at last.................The north shore of LI.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;cobra...South shore of LI&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 02:13:31 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>atlastontheroad</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-05-16T02:13:31Z</dc:date>
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      <description>I am very thankful that I live in base housing where, at this base, for the moment, we do not pay utilities. It is coming however.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I have the chance to save a little money for Jan 09 when I have to move off base and prepare myself for the prices of utilities here.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 14:16:29 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-05-16T14:16:29Z</dc:date>
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