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Hi everyone,
I'm trying to rebuild while in chapter 13. Unlike chapter 7, I won't have a discharge until the plan is finalized in 5 years, and in the meantime my credit shows an open BK. So for example Merrick's secured card won't qualify me because of the pending BK (I didn't apply, but it states on the website you can't have a pending BK to qualify). I was able to open a secured card with OpenSky and I believe I will be able to do so with GreenDot. But what about the third card? Is there another card out there that won't check credit at all so even with a pending BK I can open an account? I already have a mortgage and HELOC reporting so I don't think I need the Self builder loan. Just wondering about that third credit card for the rebuild.
Thanks.
I take it your in a Chapter 13? Getting 3 cards so fast will knock your scores down. Theres no rush to get credit. With Chapter 13 bankruptcy, you will need to receive prior approval from the court or Chapter 13 trustee. Additionally, your plan payment must be current at the time of the request. Slow down. Rebuilding is a marathon not a race.
Greendot doesnt. I use them in my 13 right now. $200 minimum.
@FireMedic1 wrote:I take it your in a Chapter 13? Getting 3 cards so fast will knock your scores down. Theres no rush to get credit. With Chapter 13 bankruptcy, you will need to receive prior approval from the court or Chapter 13 trustee. Additionally, your plan payment must be current at the time of the request. Slow down. Rebuilding is a marathon not a race.
@FireMedic1 - I'm on a 100% payment plan and all my payments are current. My attorney told me that my trustee does not care if I incur new debt based on her prior experience. I'm not trying to rush, I'm just very concerned about the effect that the BK is having on my credit, which was otherwise spotless until I filed. My readings here told me I should aim for 3 credit cards and a loan. So I was looking to open three secured cards and then just AZEO them at the same time as I make my plan payments. Not a good idea?
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Greendot doesnt. I use them in my 13 right now. $200 minimum.
Thanks. That's my next secured card. Was wondering if there was a third like GreenDot and OpenSky that don't check your credit.
How far along are you in your chapter 13?
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@FireMedic1 wrote:I take it your in a Chapter 13? Getting 3 cards so fast will knock your scores down. Theres no rush to get credit. With Chapter 13 bankruptcy, you will need to receive prior approval from the court or Chapter 13 trustee. Additionally, your plan payment must be current at the time of the request. Slow down. Rebuilding is a marathon not a race.
@FireMedic1- I'm on a 100% payment plan and all my payments are current. My attorney told me that my trustee does not care if I incur new debt based on her prior experience. I'm not trying to rush, I'm just very concerned about the effect that the BK is having on my credit, which was otherwise spotless until I filed. My readings here told me I should aim for 3 credit cards and a loan. So I was looking to open three secured cards and then just AZEO them at the same time as I make my plan payments. Not a good idea?
I also had an excellent credit file with no baddies before I filed Ch13. I did not get any CC's during the plan. Immediately upon discharge, I applied and was approved for an unsecured CC with a starting line of $3500. At that time, my credit score was still in a rollercoaster because my credit file wasn't updated yet. 2 months after discharge, my FICO 8 was 701 (EX), and at that time I got a second unsecured CC with SL of $7000. 5 months after that, 3rd CC with SL of $12k. No denials since starting my rebuild. My point in this isn't to boast, but to say that having a clean file before BK is really an advantage once you are discharged. The key is once you are discharged, then you'll be able to rebuild and do so quickly.
Even if the trustee doesn't usually care, getting new credit without their approval could technically be against the terms of the plan. They could decide to care, which you have no control over, and dismiss your case - and there goes your discharge and new start. Why jeopardize your second chance if you've been doing great in the plan and are on track? Also, your credit score is going to be bad no matter what until you get discharged, especially if you had no baddies before filing. You'll have better scores to get better credit terms if you wait to apply after the DC. Why the rush? Slow and steady wins the marathon here.
Thanks for your insight and recommendation. I guess I have to learn to stop stressing over it and just wait. Five years seems like such a long time. I already opened the OpenSky card but I guess I won't open any more and just wait things out. Thanks.
Getting credit during a 13 wont do much to a score because its an on-going BK and hasnt been completd or DC'ed. Chapter 7 is a 1 and done deal and a DC. And easier to rebuild. All debts are gone and a bunch of 0 balances. Out of debt. That isnt the case with a 13. Your still in debt but paying them off under the BK laws/protections. So there is a small difference. But I will say. 5 yrs goes by fast. I can believe I'm a couple months away from halfway thru my filing already.
@Anonymous wrote:Five years seems like such a long time.
5 years is a long time. But in that time, you should be able to develop habits to prevent from getting into the same situation again, and you may be able to save up a lot (I used the time during BK to build my net worth and was no longer insolvent by the time I got my discharge). It IS maddening that those who file BK7 get to start rebuilding right away. But on the plus side, by the time you get discharged, you'll only need to wait 2 more years before the BK falls off your credit reports. Having it come off your reports 3 years earlier (compared to a BK7) is also nice.
Thank you for the insight. I'm trying to learn how to cope with having to spend 5 years in this process. Everyone says the time goes by quickly - but that's a lot easier to say and digest AFTER the time has already passed, not when looking at the mountain of time looming over one's head.
But I'm taking the advice from here seriously and won't jump to more credit cards.