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AndyK90
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Amex SP/HP Card

Hi everyone,

 

I recently went through a rebuild and have been steady getting back into AMEX good graces after burning them a number of years ago. Back in 2019 they reached out to me regarding their Optima program and I accepted. After a year with the Optima card and always paying off my balance, I checked their site for preapprovals and was able to get a BCP with a 1K limit. I assume the limit was them being generous with a card due to previous history. 

 

Since having the BCP, I have not received an CLI despite paying my balance in full every statement. I tried after my first 90 days with the card had passed and was denied a CLI and have not tried again since. 

 

Fast forward to now and I was looking at trying my hand at the CLI link again since its been over a year since I tried last time. However, I was also debating if it that card was bucketed would it just be worth applying for a new AMEX on their site instead (No preapprovals as of now). 

 

With that said though, if I decide to go the new card route, I wanted to know if it was a SP or HP since I already have two cards (Optima, BCP) with them. 

 

I heard recently that Amex would let you apply for a card and it would only be a SP if you own an AMEX already but was not sure if that was true in all cases. I also heard something to the effect that AMEX would let you apply for a card and then if you are approved and accept the card does it affect your score. 

 

Wanted to see if there was a clear answer, if not I think I may try my hand at a CLI again. Any help is appreciated, thanks in advance,

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Rogue46
Established Contributor

Re: Amex SP/HP Card

If your already an Amex card holder any new cards would be a soft pull. I believe CLI are also but not certain.





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EAJuggalo
Established Contributor

Re: Amex SP/HP Card


@Rogue46 wrote:

If your already an Amex card holder any new cards would be a soft pull. I believe CLI are also but not certain.


Almost always a new card is a soft pull, not always.  There are reports here and elsewhere of people getting hard pulls that already were AMEX customers.  That said I now have one charge card and 4 revolvers, everything after my first one has been a soft pull.

EX700 TU 704 EQ 694 4/03/22
Cap1 QS-$4,500 Chase Freedom Flex- $800 Chase Freedom Unlimited- $1,000 Victoria's Secret- $1,200 Citi DC- $800 Amazon Store Card- $3,500 AMEX Hilton Honors-$1,000 Discover It-$1,000 Wal-Mart MC $290 Chase Sapphire Preferred-$5,000 NFCU Flagship $13,800 AMEX BCE-$1,000 AMEX Gold-$5,000 AMEX Delta Blue $1,000 Lowe's $5,000 Navy Platinum $17,000 AMEX BBP $2,000
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CCrew
Regular Contributor

Re: Amex SP/HP Card

3 cards, everthing after the first has been a SP. 

 

BUT... if it matters to you. As a data point every AmEX Luv button hit for a CLI has a corresponding pull to TheWorkNumber to do income verification. So underlying in that Equifax who owns them knows every Amex pull to them. Moral of the story is don't fudge income I guess. 

 

I'm in Infosec for a living, hate finding these things. :-(

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coldfusion
Community Leader
Mega Contributor

Re: Amex SP/HP Card

 

That claim has been debunked here multiple times over the last several years as multiple members experienced firsthand that the "always a SP for current cardholders" claim for new applications is bogus.  In my case cards #1, #4, and #8 each triggered an Experian hard pull. 

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FireMedic1
Community Leader
Mega Contributor

Re: Amex SP/HP Card


@AndyK90 wrote:

Hi everyone,

 

I recently went through a rebuild and have been steady getting back into AMEX good graces after burning them a number of years ago. Back in 2019 they reached out to me regarding their Optima program and I accepted. After a year with the Optima card and always paying off my balance, I checked their site for preapprovals and was able to get a BCP with a 1K limit. I assume the limit was them being generous with a card due to previous history. 

 

Since having the BCP, I have not received an CLI despite paying my balance in full every statement. I tried after my first 90 days with the card had passed and was denied a CLI and have not tried again since. 

 

Fast forward to now and I was looking at trying my hand at the CLI link again since its been over a year since I tried last time. However, I was also debating if it that card was bucketed would it just be worth applying for a new AMEX on their site instead (No preapprovals as of now). 

 

With that said though, if I decide to go the new card route, I wanted to know if it was a SP or HP since I already have two cards (Optima, BCP) with them. 

 

I heard recently that Amex would let you apply for a card and it would only be a SP if you own an AMEX already but was not sure if that was true in all cases. I also heard something to the effect that AMEX would let you apply for a card and then if you are approved and accept the card does it affect your score. 

 

Wanted to see if there was a clear answer, if not I think I may try my hand at a CLI again. Any help is appreciated, thanks in advance,


Smash it. Just got a auto and SP CLI's in 2 days and started at $1000 like you.


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Rogue46
Established Contributor

Re: Amex SP/HP Card


@coldfusion wrote:

 

That claim has been debunked here multiple times over the last several years as multiple members experienced firsthand that the "always a SP for current cardholders" claim for new applications is bogus.  In my case cards #1, #4, and #8 each triggered an Experian hard pull. 


I was going by personal experience as all my cards have been soft pulls after the first one. Thanks for pointing that out I stand corrected.  





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Traveler101
Established Contributor

Re: Amex SP/HP Card


@AndyK90 wrote:

Hi everyone,

 

I recently went through a rebuild and have been steady getting back into AMEX good graces after burning them a number of years ago. Back in 2019 they reached out to me regarding their Optima program and I accepted. After a year with the Optima card and always paying off my balance, I checked their site for preapprovals and was able to get a BCP with a 1K limit. I assume the limit was them being generous with a card due to previous history. 

 

Since having the BCP, I have not received an CLI despite paying my balance in full every statement. I tried after my first 90 days with the card had passed and was denied a CLI and have not tried again since. 

 

Fast forward to now and I was looking at trying my hand at the CLI link again since its been over a year since I tried last time. However, I was also debating if it that card was bucketed would it just be worth applying for a new AMEX on their site instead (No preapprovals as of now). 

 

With that said though, if I decide to go the new card route, I wanted to know if it was a SP or HP since I already have two cards (Optima, BCP) with them. 

 

I heard recently that Amex would let you apply for a card and it would only be a SP if you own an AMEX already but was not sure if that was true in all cases. I also heard something to the effect that AMEX would let you apply for a card and then if you are approved and accept the card does it affect your score. 

 

Wanted to see if there was a clear answer, if not I think I may try my hand at a CLI again. Any help is appreciated, thanks in advance,


Log into your amex account. Search cards. Tap onto the card you are interested in. I believe you have to hit apply button. Then a screen should pop up to tell you if you are pre-approved. 

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Traveler101
Established Contributor

Re: Amex SP/HP Card

Another option could be hit the cli button and see how it goes. Good luck and go get em.

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Lou-natic
Established Contributor

Re: Amex SP/HP Card


@AndyK90 wrote:

Hi everyone,

 

I recently went through a rebuild and have been steady getting back into AMEX good graces after burning them a number of years ago. Back in 2019 they reached out to me regarding their Optima program and I accepted. After a year with the Optima card and always paying off my balance, I checked their site for preapprovals and was able to get a BCP with a 1K limit. I assume the limit was them being generous with a card due to previous history. 

 

Since having the BCP, I have not received an CLI despite paying my balance in full every statement. I tried after my first 90 days with the card had passed and was denied a CLI and have not tried again since. 

 

Fast forward to now and I was looking at trying my hand at the CLI link again since its been over a year since I tried last time. However, I was also debating if it that card was bucketed would it just be worth applying for a new AMEX on their site instead (No preapprovals as of now). 

 

With that said though, if I decide to go the new card route, I wanted to know if it was a SP or HP since I already have two cards (Optima, BCP) with them. 

 

I heard recently that Amex would let you apply for a card and it would only be a SP if you own an AMEX already but was not sure if that was true in all cases. I also heard something to the effect that AMEX would let you apply for a card and then if you are approved and accept the card does it affect your score. 

 

Wanted to see if there was a clear answer, if not I think I may try my hand at a CLI again. Any help is appreciated, thanks in advance,


AMEX isn't Capital One, they don't "bucket" cards. Ask for a CLI as often as you want, once approved then wait 181 days to ask again. Done and done.




8/22/24
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