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Anonymous
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Re: Balance Transfer $75K from Chase and AMEX


@Anonymous wrote:

@Kiesha8185 wrote:

Thanks, it definitely was scary. Especially to go from no cc debt to maxing out $75K worth of medical bills.

 

I make $55K, hubby makes a little more but his pay is so sporadic with military.  

Your husband is in the MIlitary, is your home a VA loan?  You could do a VA Cash Out Loan, read about it.  Example, say the balance of you home loan iis $200,000 and per the appraisal, it is worth $300,000, you could do a cash out of $75k.  The $75k will get added to the current home loan ($200K+ $75k) which will increase your monthly mortgage payment by roughly $250-$350/month.  You then get your $75k and pay everything off.  Doing this will get you to $0 credit card debt.  You will be paying a few hundred more on your mortgage, but will be better than paying $3000/month on CCs.  Even better, since you can afford to pay $3k on credit cards, you could use some of that and make extra payments on your motgage to bring the loan balance down quicker.

 

 


This is literally just trading short term pain for long term. A 75k 30 year loan at the current mortgage rate for prime borrowers would be over $350 a month for 30 years. OP would be paying $51,000 in interest over that 30 year time period. I do agree that the next 2.5-3 years would be more comfortable, but adding in the risk of losing their home as well as the opportunity cost of that money over time is not the best option here. OP needs a budget and needs to make hard lifestyle choices to work through this. More borrowing will not solve the problem.

By the way, OP, this is a really crappy situation. I'm very sorry that a medical issue put your family in a situation like this. I hope that you all find a way out and can make it through this short term pain.

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Anonymous
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Re: Balance Transfer $75K from Chase and AMEX


@Anonymous wrote:

@CreditCuriousity wrote:

Surprised at how many people are saying Chap 7 BK as a possibility..  I never had to file it nor hopefully ever have to.. OP might make to much for this to be an option and then BK13 comes into play if I am not mistaken.  Just because someone doesn't want to pay a debt Chap 7 BK isn't an option if you make x Amt of money.  As stated no expert to BK's as never filed, but alot more peeople would file BK 7's if they simply wanted to get out of debt when in reality they can afford to slowly pay off things although it is painful.  OP case is pretty extreme, but many people on here could run up 75k in CC quickly and be in a world of trouble as well as alot of people on this forum has 250k-500k in credit and more and not the income to support it if they decided to go wild.  Understand this is a medical issue, but i don't think that changes any rules whether BK7 is a possibility or if they would have to go route of bk13 which obviously must be repaid, but obviously the interest would stop (I believe)


i get your point, but not everyone who falls under debt are fortunate like you, everyone's story is different.  OP is looking/asking for help/advice and we are doing that by giving her options and what's available on the table to get out of debt.  It is ultimately her choice to decide what route she wants to take.  Her income is $55k by the way.  

 

Back to the topic, what is your advice?


HHI is above $110k per the OP. I do agree that BK could be the right choice, and I'm generally hesitant to believe that. Assuming take home pay is roughy 7-8k per month, this would be sincerely difficult to pay down for most people in their situation. BK may be the only way out if they can't keep their expenses at a level that works for repayment.

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Anonymous
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Re: Balance Transfer $75K from Chase and AMEX


@Anonymous wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

@Kiesha8185 wrote:

Thanks, it definitely was scary. Especially to go from no cc debt to maxing out $75K worth of medical bills.

 

I make $55K, hubby makes a little more but his pay is so sporadic with military.  

Your husband is in the MIlitary, is your home a VA loan?  You could do a VA Cash Out Loan, read about it.  Example, say the balance of you home loan iis $200,000 and per the appraisal, it is worth $300,000, you could do a cash out of $75k.  The $75k will get added to the current home loan ($200K+ $75k) which will increase your monthly mortgage payment by roughly $250-$350/month.  You then get your $75k and pay everything off.  Doing this will get you to $0 credit card debt.  You will be paying a few hundred more on your mortgage, but will be better than paying $3000/month on CCs.  Even better, since you can afford to pay $3k on credit cards, you could use some of that and make extra payments on your motgage to bring the loan balance down quicker.

 

 


This is literally just trading short term pain for long term. A 75k 30 year loan at the current mortgage rate for prime borrowers would be over $350 a month for 30 years. OP would be paying $51,000 in interest over that 30 year time period. I do agree that the next 2.5-3 years would be more comfortable, but adding in the risk of losing their home as well as the opportunity cost of that money over time is not the best option here. OP needs a budget and needs to make hard lifestyle choices to work through this. More borrowing will not solve the problem.

By the way, OP, this is a really crappy situation. I'm very sorry that a medical issue put your family in a situation like this. I hope that you all find a way out and can make it through this short term pain.


Thanks for chiming in! That is why i was suggesting to use the $3k she was paying on CCs to make higher payments on the mortgage to bring the balance down quicker.  But i see your point.

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Anonymous
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Re: Balance Transfer $75K from Chase and AMEX


@Anonymous wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

@CreditCuriousity wrote:

Surprised at how many people are saying Chap 7 BK as a possibility..  I never had to file it nor hopefully ever have to.. OP might make to much for this to be an option and then BK13 comes into play if I am not mistaken.  Just because someone doesn't want to pay a debt Chap 7 BK isn't an option if you make x Amt of money.  As stated no expert to BK's as never filed, but alot more peeople would file BK 7's if they simply wanted to get out of debt when in reality they can afford to slowly pay off things although it is painful.  OP case is pretty extreme, but many people on here could run up 75k in CC quickly and be in a world of trouble as well as alot of people on this forum has 250k-500k in credit and more and not the income to support it if they decided to go wild.  Understand this is a medical issue, but i don't think that changes any rules whether BK7 is a possibility or if they would have to go route of bk13 which obviously must be repaid, but obviously the interest would stop (I believe)


i get your point, but not everyone who falls under debt are fortunate like you, everyone's story is different.  OP is looking/asking for help/advice and we are doing that by giving her options and what's available on the table to get out of debt.  It is ultimately her choice to decide what route she wants to take.  Her income is $55k by the way.  

 

Back to the topic, what is your advice?


HHI is above $110k per the OP. I do agree that BK could be the right choice, and I'm generally hesitant to believe that. Assuming take home pay is roughy 7-8k per month, this would be sincerely difficult to pay down for most people in their situation. BK may be the only way out if they can't keep their expenses at a level that works for repayment.


Bills you might be able to bring down/canel:

 

Internet Plan

Get rid of home phone

Change to cheaper cell phone plan/carrier

Get rid of cable (we use Netflix)

Dont eat out as much (buy groceries for the week and take lunch to work)

 

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MauiMan85297
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Re: Balance Transfer $75K from Chase and AMEX


@Anonymous wrote:

@CreditCuriousity wrote:

Surprised at how many people are saying Chap 7 BK as a possibility..  I never had to file it nor hopefully ever have to.. OP might make to much for this to be an option and then BK13 comes into play if I am not mistaken.  Just because someone doesn't want to pay a debt Chap 7 BK isn't an option if you make x Amt of money.  As stated no expert to BK's as never filed, but alot more peeople would file BK 7's if they simply wanted to get out of debt when in reality they can afford to slowly pay off things although it is painful.  OP case is pretty extreme, but many people on here could run up 75k in CC quickly and be in a world of trouble as well as alot of people on this forum has 250k-500k in credit and more and not the income to support it if they decided to go wild.  Understand this is a medical issue, but i don't think that changes any rules whether BK7 is a possibility or if they would have to go route of bk13 which obviously must be repaid, but obviously the interest would stop (I believe)


i get your point, but not everyone who falls under debt are fortunate like you, everyone's story is different.  OP is looking/asking for help/advice and we are doing that by giving her options and what's available on the table to get out of debt.  It is ultimately her choice to decide what route she wants to take.  Her income is $55k by the way.  

 

Back to the topic, what is your advice?


He is merely stating that people are quick to give advice of BK7 when the OP stated earlier they have chunks of cash to apply to debt and that doesn't sound like a hardship although the $75k is.



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medicgrrl
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Re: Balance Transfer $75K from Chase and AMEX

Are these cards in your name only? How's hubby's credit look?


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Anonymous
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Re: Balance Transfer $75K from Chase and AMEX

 

 


Thanks for chiming in! That is why i was suggesting to use the $3k she was paying on CCs to make higher payments on the mortgage to bring the balance down quicker.  But i see your point.


 

Personal opinion here, but securing that debt is a very dangerous road to walk. I also see your point, and think the added flexibility is a possible way out but also a way much deeper down the hole. Definitely nice to see an opposing viewpoint well thought out.

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Anonymous
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Re: Balance Transfer $75K from Chase and AMEX


@MauiMan85297 wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

@CreditCuriousity wrote:

Surprised at how many people are saying Chap 7 BK as a possibility..  I never had to file it nor hopefully ever have to.. OP might make to much for this to be an option and then BK13 comes into play if I am not mistaken.  Just because someone doesn't want to pay a debt Chap 7 BK isn't an option if you make x Amt of money.  As stated no expert to BK's as never filed, but alot more peeople would file BK 7's if they simply wanted to get out of debt when in reality they can afford to slowly pay off things although it is painful.  OP case is pretty extreme, but many people on here could run up 75k in CC quickly and be in a world of trouble as well as alot of people on this forum has 250k-500k in credit and more and not the income to support it if they decided to go wild.  Understand this is a medical issue, but i don't think that changes any rules whether BK7 is a possibility or if they would have to go route of bk13 which obviously must be repaid, but obviously the interest would stop (I believe)


i get your point, but not everyone who falls under debt are fortunate like you, everyone's story is different.  OP is looking/asking for help/advice and we are doing that by giving her options and what's available on the table to get out of debt.  It is ultimately her choice to decide what route she wants to take.  Her income is $55k by the way.  

 

Back to the topic, what is your advice?


He is merely stating that people are quick to give advice of BK7 when the OP stated earlier they have chunks of cash to apply to debt and that doesn't sound like a hardship although the $75k is.


Still waiting on OP to let us know how much cash she has available to apply to those balances.  Sounds to me she has a lot, which in that case, of course Ch7 won't be an option :-)

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CreditCuriosity
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Re: Balance Transfer $75K from Chase and AMEX


@Anonymous wrote:

@CreditCuriousity wrote:

Surprised at how many people are saying Chap 7 BK as a possibility..  I never had to file it nor hopefully ever have to.. OP might make to much for this to be an option and then BK13 comes into play if I am not mistaken.  Just because someone doesn't want to pay a debt Chap 7 BK isn't an option if you make x Amt of money.  As stated no expert to BK's as never filed, but alot more peeople would file BK 7's if they simply wanted to get out of debt when in reality they can afford to slowly pay off things although it is painful.  OP case is pretty extreme, but many people on here could run up 75k in CC quickly and be in a world of trouble as well as alot of people on this forum has 250k-500k in credit and more and not the income to support it if they decided to go wild.  Understand this is a medical issue, but i don't think that changes any rules whether BK7 is a possibility or if they would have to go route of bk13 which obviously must be repaid, but obviously the interest would stop (I believe)


i get your point, but not everyone who falls under debt are fortunate like you, everyone's story is different.  OP is looking/asking for help/advice and we are doing that by giving her options and what's available on the table to get out of debt.  It is ultimately her choice to decide what route she wants to take.  Her income is $55k by the way.  

 

Back to the topic, what is your advice?


Her income is 55k and husbands is around there or a bit more i believe if I read above.  so about 110kish together.. Bk7 might not be an option.  My advise was posted above on another post.  Whether it was good or not is subject to debate.  I don't disgree this could happen to me or anyone as well as medical is unexpected and you could be **bleep** sure I would charge 200k to cure me from say cancer if that was my options and then we know what would follow and that would be a BK.  Extreme situations cause for extreme measures and I don't disagree with that, but taking the easy way out isn't always the best way if you understand what I am saying.  Anyways, back to topic to help op.

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Anonymous
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Re: Balance Transfer $75K from Chase and AMEX


@CreditCuriousity wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

@CreditCuriousity wrote:

Surprised at how many people are saying Chap 7 BK as a possibility..  I never had to file it nor hopefully ever have to.. OP might make to much for this to be an option and then BK13 comes into play if I am not mistaken.  Just because someone doesn't want to pay a debt Chap 7 BK isn't an option if you make x Amt of money.  As stated no expert to BK's as never filed, but alot more peeople would file BK 7's if they simply wanted to get out of debt when in reality they can afford to slowly pay off things although it is painful.  OP case is pretty extreme, but many people on here could run up 75k in CC quickly and be in a world of trouble as well as alot of people on this forum has 250k-500k in credit and more and not the income to support it if they decided to go wild.  Understand this is a medical issue, but i don't think that changes any rules whether BK7 is a possibility or if they would have to go route of bk13 which obviously must be repaid, but obviously the interest would stop (I believe)


i get your point, but not everyone who falls under debt are fortunate like you, everyone's story is different.  OP is looking/asking for help/advice and we are doing that by giving her options and what's available on the table to get out of debt.  It is ultimately her choice to decide what route she wants to take.  Her income is $55k by the way.  

 

Back to the topic, what is your advice?


Her income is 55k and husbands is around there or a bit more i believe if I read above.  so about 110kish together.. Bk7 might not be an option.  My advise was posted above on another post.  Whether it was good or not is subject to debate.  I don't disgree this could happen to me or anyone as well as medical is unexpected and you could be **bleep** sure I would charge 200k to cure me from say cancer if that was my options and then we know what would follow and that would be a BK.  Extreme situations cause for extreme measures and I don't disagree with that, but taking the easy way out isn't always the best way if you understand what I am saying.  Anyways, back to topic to help op.


Good point Smiley Happy

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