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Denied by Amex, what now?

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Denied by Amex, what now?

I prequaled for the BCE a couple days ago but didn't pull the trigger. Today I went through their prequal again with the intention of apping

 

Instead today they only pre-qualified me for their store branded Hilton and delta cards but no BCE. I decided to pull the trigger on BCE anyway and was denied. First app by me in 8 months.

 

Even though I was just denied can I go back and try for the delta gold. Would it be a soft pull? Or should I forget it and try again in a fews months. Also, is there a reconsideration line I can call? Thanks in advance!

 

Oh yeah, and I also wanted to try for the savor one today but I chickened out because of the horrendous tripple pull but I'm curious what u guys think if I should give it a shot?? 

Experian Fico 8 starting score - 530 (Feb 2019)
Current score - 678 (oct 2020)
Chase (AU) - $3,000
Amex BCE - $1,000
Missionlane - $1,100
Quicksilverone - $600
CFNA Firestone - $900
Discover it - $2,000
2 installments 92% paid
15% utilization
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Re: Denied by Amex, what now?

Also very weird is I just checked the decision details and the score they gave me is not my current fico 8 from Experian unless it is back dated.

Experian Fico 8 starting score - 530 (Feb 2019)
Current score - 678 (oct 2020)
Chase (AU) - $3,000
Amex BCE - $1,000
Missionlane - $1,100
Quicksilverone - $600
CFNA Firestone - $900
Discover it - $2,000
2 installments 92% paid
15% utilization
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Re: Denied by Amex, what now?

Must wait 90 days to apply for any AMEX product after denial. 

Personal Credit -
AMEX: Platinum, Gold, Blue Cash Preferred, Schwab Investor
PNC: Cash Rewards, Points
NFCU: Flaghship Rewards, Cash Rewards, More Rewards, CLOC
PSECU: Founders
BB&T: Spectrum Cash Rewards
CapOne: Quicksilver
Discover: IT Chrome, IT
Synchrony: PayPal 2%, PayPal Credit
Barclays: Uber
PenFed: Power Cash Rewards, Platinum Rewards
Alliant: Visa Signature
Store Cards: Target, Macy’s
AU Cards: Citi Rewards+

Business Credit-
AMEX: Delta Gold, Amazon Prime, Simply Cash Plus
PNC: Visa Business
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Re: Denied by Amex, what now?

Apps in one day should be consolidated for credit pulls... so should be ok. Ymmv. 

You can try a recon. You should try a recon. Can't hurt. Might not help, but can't hurt. 

How far off was their score vs what your ex score is on MF?

 

  
  
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I get my EX fico 8 score from Experian website and its 10 points higher than the score Amex provided me just now when I looked at the denial letter online. I just think that's really weird that the scores are off because I thought for sure that Amex was a guarantee EX fico 8 and after hard pulling my report u would think that would be the up to date score. 

 

Yeah and maybe I will app the savor one now better than later I would just hate a tripple pull denial.

Experian Fico 8 starting score - 530 (Feb 2019)
Current score - 678 (oct 2020)
Chase (AU) - $3,000
Amex BCE - $1,000
Missionlane - $1,100
Quicksilverone - $600
CFNA Firestone - $900
Discover it - $2,000
2 installments 92% paid
15% utilization
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Re: Denied by Amex, what now?

Back when I was denied for an Amex, I thought the score was too low also. I checked all my scores on Myfico and the one that lined up with what they said my score was, was a bank card score. It wasn't a FICO 8.  It was the older experian bank card score. 



Starting Fico Scores:November 2019

Current Fico Scores: September 2, 2020
Goal Scores: 700 across all three
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Just thought I'd throw in a little update. I emailed the chairman's office and asked for a reconsideration. They said no but welcomed me to apply again in 6 months. Ive been hearing in these threads about how solid Amex's pre-qual is and I'm here to warn that I was pre-qualified and got denied. Also here to warn that they are using a different score than FICO 8. Hope this helps someone in the future.

Experian Fico 8 starting score - 530 (Feb 2019)
Current score - 678 (oct 2020)
Chase (AU) - $3,000
Amex BCE - $1,000
Missionlane - $1,100
Quicksilverone - $600
CFNA Firestone - $900
Discover it - $2,000
2 installments 92% paid
15% utilization
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Re: Denied by Amex, what now?


@Egaffne2 wrote:

Just thought I'd throw in a little update. I emailed the chairman's office and asked for a reconsideration. They said no but welcomed me to apply again in 6 months. Ive been hearing in these threads about how solid Amex's pre-qual is and I'm here to warn that I was pre-qualified and got denied. Also here to warn that they are using a different score than FICO 8. Hope this helps someone in the future.


Well, you were prequalified a few days ago but you said that you were not when you went for it and apped the BCE. We don't know why that changed but it did. And with Covid, everything has been changing with many lenders, including approval criteria. 

With regards to Savor, you may want to wait. CapOne has been pushing that as a top-tier card for awhile now. Unless you've gotten comfortably over 700 since the score in your sig, you may want to wait a bit and increase it. CapOne has gotten a lot stricter too and burning a triple pull for a decline would be a bitter pill to swallow.



Platinum NPSL | Rose Gold NPSL | BCP | Delta Gold | Hilton Surpass | Hilton Honors | PenFed PCR | IT Cash | IT Chrome | GHSFCU Visa Plat | Quicksilver | Target | VS | Home Depot | Lowes | Sams MC | Firestone | Overstock | Kohl’s | Key Bank auto loan (2017 Audi A6 Premium Plus S-Line)





TCL $87,900 | Agg. Util under 5%
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@Egaffne2 wrote:

I get my EX fico 8 score from Experian website and its 10 points higher than the score Amex provided me just now when I looked at the denial letter online. I just think that's really weird that the scores are off because I thought for sure that Amex was a guarantee EX fico 8 and after hard pulling my report u would think that would be the up to date score. 


I experienced the same thing recently with my Wells Fargo Propel app. When I applied, I knew my EX FICO 8 score was 815 because it was just updated that week, maybe 3 days before I applied for the card. When I got my approval letter in the mail, it stated my credit score at 802 per EX and my prior research also showed that they pulled FICO 8.

as of 11/20/20
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REDEMPTION!! 

 

Hello everyone. I just wanna update everyone on my quest for the BCE and my aspiration to become an Amex customer. I was approved!! After that denial last June it feels good. $1000 limit. I wasn't immediately approved it took a few hours. To my knowledge I'm assuming I'm getting the sign up bonus. Does anyone know how to double check that I am?

Experian Fico 8 starting score - 530 (Feb 2019)
Current score - 678 (oct 2020)
Chase (AU) - $3,000
Amex BCE - $1,000
Missionlane - $1,100
Quicksilverone - $600
CFNA Firestone - $900
Discover it - $2,000
2 installments 92% paid
15% utilization
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