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I think chase HP my ex fico score and got a wrong score.

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I think chase HP my ex fico score and got a wrong score.

I have an Experian account and can see that my fico score on February 20 is 702. I applied for a chase freedom credit card that day, and I was not approved immediately. I called recon and I was still not approved. Yesterday I received a paper letter from chase, which stated that my score based on Experian at 02/21/2019 was 645 points.

I logged into the Experian account today and saw 702 points.

 

What chase doing?

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Re: I think chase HP my ex fico score and got a wrong score.

Chase uses their version of CARS (proprietary scoring model) which will differ from the actual FICO score you obtained.
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Re: I think chase HP my ex fico score and got a wrong score.

I have some other chase letters indicating that the scoring system name belongs to CardAcquisitionRiskScoreV2 and my score there is 664.
The letter I can't understand score 645 shows source: Experian

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Re: I think chase HP my ex fico score and got a wrong score.

Right, CARS provides a scoring range just like a FICO score would. Depending on Chase's algorithms, their scale shows where you scored.

An item to keep in mind, a variety of lenders have their own sophisticated and /or custom versions of their own scoring systems. Think of it like a 'hybrid' FICO.

BTW, welcome to the myFICO forums @dajusha.
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Re: I think chase HP my ex fico score and got a wrong score.

OK... Although the 645 score comes from Experian, it is not directly equal to the Experian score?
I will not continue to try to apply for Chase's credit card for a while.

Thank you, myfico is a valuable community.

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Re: I think chase HP my ex fico score and got a wrong score.

I'm not sure if Chase is the same way as Amex but I know Amex online has a section where you can see the FICO they use in making their decisions I haven't played around on Chase's online account just yet to see if they show what FICO they use but I would check I know Amex is behind Smiley Very Happy










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Re: I think chase HP my ex fico score and got a wrong score.


@dajusha wrote:

OK... Although the 645 score comes from Experian, it is not directly equal to the Experian score?
I will not continue to try to apply for Chase's credit card for a while.

Thank you, myfico is a valuable community.


 

The letter should list reasons why you were denied. Those reasons can give you an idea on when to attempt applying again 

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Re: I think chase HP my ex fico score and got a wrong score.

Well, it's definitely not the same FICO score version that you obtained from Experian.

It's still a score from the same source, but adaptive to Chase's CARS version which also incorporates a variety of FICO score elements.
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Re: I think chase HP my ex fico score and got a wrong score.

the score in Amex “View FICO® Score” is totally the same as the score in Experian. 

And if you look the line in small font, it said "Your FICO® Score 8 based on Experian data is the same score used by American Express"

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Re: I think chase HP my ex fico score and got a wrong score.

Right, AmEx provides the FICO 8 version, while Chase does not.
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