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shakalaka
Established Contributor

Re: The Definitive Amex 3X CLI Guide Discussion Thread

Congrats



FICO (TU/EX/EQ): 773/766/778 - Total CL 255+K
Message 111 of 5,432
MustangSaluki
Regular Contributor

Re: The Definitive Amex 3X CLI Guide Discussion Thread


@MustangSaluki wrote:

@MustangSaluki wrote:

 

Last CLI Received on one of the accounts: 07/29/2012

 

I will complete 180 days since last CLI on January 25, 2013. (2+31+30+31+30+31+25). Eligible date for CLI going by this rule = January 26, 2013

I will complete 6 months since last CLI on January 29, 2013. Eligible date for CLI going by this rule = January 30, 2013

 

 

Am planning on attempting on Jan 26 first. My credit score is near 800 on EX and I have been tracking the softs. If I get denied, it will be most likely because of violating the eligibility rules and not income/credit profile. I will attempt again on Jan 30 if that is the case without necessarily waiting for email/snail mail. It will also confirm if I reset the window during the attempted credit shuffle on 08/14/2012

 

If others have datapoints to share, please do. 

 


Received 7-10 message on the CLI attempt. So looks like I jumped the gun lol bummerSmiley Indifferent


 

Received a request for 4506T in the mail yesterday which was the reason for the 7-10 days message and not "jumping the gun". So we have established a couple more things

 

  • "6 months" is actually 180 days and not 6 calendar months.
  • A failed attempt to move credit limits during the 180 day quiet period doesn't reset the original 180 days clock. Still need to verify a successful attempt though if anyone has a data point.

 

Last month I was approved for the Amex Platinum and Amex PRG. The overall exposure for Amex has definitely increased substantially within a short time period from Amex perspective which may be the reason why they want to verify my income eventhough this isn't a request to go over $25000 for a single line, which is typically the reason for 4506T.

 

  • This CLI request was for my BCP from $4000 to $12000. So in certain circumstances Amex can ask for 4506T for CLI requests even if it is for < $25k, if they feel their overall exposure across a number of cards for the same person is risky until income verification.

 

This is not a full blown Financial Review which is often confused with a 4506T request. All 4 cards are fully functional, in fact I called in CSR yesterday for a different issue and she said at one point "We Love You" Smiley LOL (I thought to myself "Apparently not that much")

 

Here is a screenshot of the Amex letter requesting 4506T which is dated January 28, 2 days after I went for the CLI.

 

4506t Request from Amex

 

 

Here is the direct link to form 4506T http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f4506t.pdf

 

Just like the OP indicates(Walt_K thanks again!), the letter suggests that if I don't respond within 30 days, there will be no consideration for the CLI request for my BCP account. I wil updated OP with the new data points and maybe add a section for 4506T specifically.

 

FWIW, I just faxed the completed form this morning! 

 

 

 

Message 112 of 5,432
Joesh
New Contributor

Re: The Definitive Amex 3X CLI Guide Discussion Thread

Wow that is awful. Requesting a 4506T for $4k to $12k. Dunno if I'm going to ask for another CLI w/ AMEX.

AMEX BCP : $30K | Citi Forward : $15K | Citi Dividend : $14K | BoA Travel Rewards : 7K | NFL Cash Rewards : $6K | Chase Freedom : $10K | Discover IT : $6.5K | AMEX BCE: $5k | Age: 26 | Occupation: Grad Student | CreditKarma: 800TU/812EQ |
Message 113 of 5,432
crazysxycool
Regular Contributor

Re: The Definitive Amex 3X CLI Guide Discussion Thread


@westcoastpirate wrote:
Just went from $2K to $6K on my BCE!

Congrats!  Were you carrying a balance when you did your request?


Starting Score: TU: 663 EQ: 632 EX: ?
Current Score: TU: 721 (12/02/12) EQ: 704 (12/2012 via SW) EX: 712 (11/19/12 via Amex)
Goal Score: 700 (ALL)


Take the FICO Fitness Challenge
Message 114 of 5,432
westcoastpirate
Contributor

Re: The Definitive Amex 3X CLI Guide Discussion Thread

I paid the balance on Thurs, however some pending charges posted so I did have a small balance before the CLI request. I PIF the prior two statements.
Message 115 of 5,432
OhioCPA
Frequent Contributor

Re: The Definitive Amex 3X CLI Guide Discussion Thread


@MustangSaluki wrote:

@MustangSaluki wrote:

@MustangSaluki wrote:

 

Last CLI Received on one of the accounts: 07/29/2012

 

I will complete 180 days since last CLI on January 25, 2013. (2+31+30+31+30+31+25). Eligible date for CLI going by this rule = January 26, 2013

I will complete 6 months since last CLI on January 29, 2013. Eligible date for CLI going by this rule = January 30, 2013

 

 

Am planning on attempting on Jan 26 first. My credit score is near 800 on EX and I have been tracking the softs. If I get denied, it will be most likely because of violating the eligibility rules and not income/credit profile. I will attempt again on Jan 30 if that is the case without necessarily waiting for email/snail mail. It will also confirm if I reset the window during the attempted credit shuffle on 08/14/2012

 

If others have datapoints to share, please do. 

 


Received 7-10 message on the CLI attempt. So looks like I jumped the gun lol bummerSmiley Indifferent


 

Received a request for 4506T in the mail yesterday which was the reason for the 7-10 days message and not "jumping the gun". So we have established a couple more things

 

  • "6 months" is actually 180 days and not 6 calendar months.
  • A failed attempt to move credit limits during the 180 day quiet period doesn't reset the original 180 days clock. Still need to verify a successful attempt though if anyone has a data point.

 

Last month I was approved for the Amex Platinum and Amex PRG. The overall exposure for Amex has definitely increased substantially within a short time period from Amex perspective which may be the reason why they want to verify my income eventhough this isn't a request to go over $25000 for a single line, which is typically the reason for 4506T.

 

  • This CLI request was for my BCP from $4000 to $12000. So in certain circumstances Amex can ask for 4506T for CLI requests even if it is for < $25k, if they feel their overall exposure across a number of cards for the same person is risky until income verification.

 

This is not a full blown Financial Review which is often confused with a 4506T request. All 4 cards are fully functional, in fact I called in CSR yesterday for a different issue and she said at one point "We Love You" Smiley LOL (I thought to myself "Apparently not that much")

 

Here is a screenshot of the Amex letter requesting 4506T which is dated January 28, 2 days after I went for the CLI.

 

4506t Request from Amex

 

 

Here is the direct link to form 4506T http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f4506t.pdf

 

Just like the OP indicates(Walt_K thanks again!), the letter suggests that if I don't respond within 30 days, there will be no consideration for the CLI request for my BCP account. I wil updated OP with the new data points and maybe add a section for 4506T specifically.

 

FWIW, I just faxed the completed form this morning! 

 

 

 


It isn't clear to me from your post where the $12,000 put you at with regard to Amex exposure, but my understanding is that they will ask for a 4506T when total exposure goes over $34,500.

 

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Message 116 of 5,432
blazer00aaaa
New Member

Re: The Definitive Amex 3X CLI Guide Discussion Thread

if i got a amex  card one 12/17/2012 and one 12/26/2012  can i get the 61 day cli on both ot just one  and then wait 6 month for the other one ?

 

 

 

 


15,000 wally dis ..10,000 usaa amex...10,000 navy plat  ...10,000 navy sig ...psecu 10,000 cc  psecu 10,000 loc...8500 axem spg ,,5500 amex bce  ...7000.00 cabelas

6000.00 chase slate  amazon 8,000.00 qvc 5,000.00 barkleys choice prev 6650.  

Message 117 of 5,432
OhioCPA
Frequent Contributor

Re: The Definitive Amex 3X CLI Guide Discussion Thread


@blazer00aaaa wrote:

if i got a amex  card one 12/17/2012 and one 12/26/2012  can i get the 61 day cli on both ot just one  and then wait 6 month for the other one ?

 

 

 

 


15,000 wally dis ..10,000 usaa amex...10,000 navy plat  ...10,000 navy sig ...psecu 10,000 cc  psecu 10,000 loc...8500 axem spg ,,5500 amex bce  ...7000.00 cabelas

6000.00 chase slate  amazon 8,000.00 qvc 5,000.00 barkleys choice prev 6650.  


Just one. Then six months for either one.

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Message 118 of 5,432
Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: The Definitive Amex 3X CLI Guide Discussion Thread

I just read this and thought why not. I had initially opened my Costco Amex last March with a starting limit of $15,700 and pretty much forgot about cli'ing it until today. I asked for a cli to $47,100 (3x) and got an increase to $33,900 (a little over 2x). Not bad I would say...

Message 119 of 5,432
blazer00aaaa
New Member

Re: The Definitive Amex 3X CLI Guide Discussion Thread

nice Smiley Very Happy

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