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Wells Fargo Bilt - Denied — Recon —Denied Again

Hello everyone,

 

I went on a bit of an app spree last Monday since I had an inquiry for a car lease fall off a month prior.

 

FICO 8 scores are between 740-755 across all three bureaus. At the time of the applications zero inquiries across all three bureaus. I app'd to Chase FU (approved 31k SL), USB Altitude Connect (7-10 day review), and WF Bilt (automatic denial).

 

So I waited for the letter, called and explained that I applied to multiple cards on the same day (something I've done for years), and that at the time of the application I had zero inquiries on my report, but I'm being denied for too many inquiries.

 

They put my application through to be reevaluated and was advised that I'd hear back in 24-48hrs or receive a letter in the mail. I didn't hear back and received a letter stating that my request to reevaluate resulted in the same outcome.

 

No prior relationship with WF. No BK or other negatives on my reports.

 

What should I do here? 

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CreditCuriosity
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Wells Fargo Bilt - Denied — Recon —Denied Again

Move on to another lenders/card.  WF's likes some and dislikes other profiles just as other lenders likes/dislikes some profiles.  I have never been able to get a WF card due to too much available credit basically which is fair and accurate.  If you have been with them awhile and had other cards with them when more thin profile likely to get approved for more cards with them and if not well you won't.  Most recent denial with wells fargo was a 841/850 for me if that says anything and 4/24 was at time of most recent denial.  Others have been approved 670+ for WF's card it isn't all about score but many factors.  Others might have different thoughts about them but now I just open a checking account each year collect bonus and close it to show them how i personally feel about them.  Many ways to milk a cow.  I hate the bank personally due to ethical issues beyond most other banks but it is a challenge I have always failed on obtaining a CC with.

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Re: Wells Fargo Bilt - Denied — Recon —Denied Again

Yeah, I get that. At this point, I'm only trying to maximize my rewards potential for the year. 

There's been chatter about Bilt including mortgage payments some time in 2025. So, I figured I why not? Lol

 

Any thoughts on US bank app taking 7+ business days? 

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quickstep_knoll
Valued Member

Re: Wells Fargo Bilt - Denied — Recon —Denied Again

Bummer. I'm sure you know this, but their stated reason is more like a stated reason given your overall profile. WF will accept people with more inquiries and a WF app on the same day given whatever other overall profile they're looking for. One thing I don't quite know is whether the stated reason is like randomly chosen from a list of reasons or like their "top" reason. In all honesty, it often seems to me like a randomly chosen reason among their reasons.

 

I also think (without evidence though) that an important, possibly under-appreciated factor is that they may be looking for certain profiles at any given time. I feel like lenders are a bit more permissive/lenient prior to the holiday season, for example, but now who knows, they might have a mandate to capture people who have 2 or more Chase cards or something random like that. I'm totally spitballing, but businesses probably make decisions based on whatever internal data they want to address/massage. Feel free to tell me I'm totally wrong if it's known that I'm totally wrong. It wouldn't be the first time ... even this afternoon ... where that's the case. Smiley Frustrated



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CreditCuriosity
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Wells Fargo Bilt - Denied — Recon —Denied Again


@Stephen_Credit wrote:

Yeah, I get that. At this point, I'm only trying to maximize my rewards potential for the year. 

There's been chatter about Bilt including mortgage payments some time in 2025. So, I figured I why not? Lol

 

Any thoughts on US bank app taking 7+ business days? 


Get that message?  If got 7+ days can call the status line and if it says declined will know it is declined if says under review then it hasn't been decined or may say approved.   When did you apply?  US Bank can do instant approvals or take several day to a week to get approved could be verification.  If you have more than a few inquiries or new accounts in the last years then will likely be a denial as they typically like a person to be under 2/12 (2 accounts in a year) to yield and approval

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Re: Wells Fargo Bilt - Denied — Recon —Denied Again

I agree. I'm sure they have certain internal criteria for approvals. I've seen posts where some are being approved with certain negatives on their reports. And I wouldn't be surprised if the margin for approval is higher closer to the holidays. 

I'll make another go of it in about 13 months 

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Re: Wells Fargo Bilt - Denied — Recon —Denied Again

Called the line. Automated message says pending verification. Spoke with an underwriter and was advised they may take approximately another business day (this was Wednesday). I applied on the 20th I think... nothing yet from USB.

 

No new accounts other than a car lease from 25 months ago. No inquires outside of my other 2 apps on the same day.

 

 

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ElvisCaprice
Regular Contributor

Re: Wells Fargo Bilt - Denied — Recon —Denied Again


@CreditCuriosity wrote:

Move on to another lenders/card.  WF's likes some and dislikes other profiles just as other lenders likes/dislikes some profiles.  I have never been able to get a WF card due to too much available credit basically which is fair and accurate.  If you have been with them awhile and had other cards with them when more thin profile likely to get approved for more cards with them and if not well you won't.  Most recent denial with wells fargo was a 841/850 for me if that says anything and 4/24 was at time of most recent denial.  Others have been approved 670+ for WF's card it isn't all about score but many factors.  Others might have different thoughts about them but now I just open a checking account each year collect bonus and close it to show them how i personally feel about them.  Many ways to milk a cow.  I hate the bank personally due to ethical issues beyond most other banks but it is a challenge I have always failed on obtaining a CC with.


Ha, I'm in the same boat.  But not for too much credit.  They have stamped me with fraudulent idenity in their secret CC profile fraud department and refuse to correct it, even with the pleas from a bank branch manager.   So I stick it to them for the checking SUB, a little over once a year.  Just got a new mailer for $400 by April 16th.  Time to collect again.  LOL

 

Guess it's not just CU's who will deny for too much CL, as I have experienced also.  Thus my preference to maintain as low of a total CL as reasonable.


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walkingtaco
New Member

Re: Wells Fargo Bilt - Denied — Recon —Denied Again

I'm sorry to hear about the Bilt card. Did anything happen with the US Bank Connect card?

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