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AMEX Reducing their standards? Friend approved with NO CREDIT

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Isacking97
Regular Contributor

AMEX Reducing their standards? Friend approved with NO CREDIT

Is this normal now? A friend was approved with almost no credit (Blue Cash Everyday). AoYY: "1 month"

 

I personally checked is credit file and theres only 2 account, one from Discover 1 month old and the new AMEX Account.

I fill this is so strange bacause to be approved by amex I had to wait 6 months 



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Cleaningitup2016
Frequent Contributor

Re: AMEX Reducing their standards? Friend approved with NO CREDIT

What product was it?

Credit Card companies have a name for those who pay their bill in full each month: Deadbeats
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Brian_Earl_Spilner
Credit Mentor

Re: AMEX Reducing their standards? Friend approved with NO CREDIT

Over 20 years ago my first card was the gold and the only thing I had on my file was an auto loan for a couple of months. 

    
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Revelate
Moderator Emeritus

Re: AMEX Reducing their standards? Friend approved with NO CREDIT

Approved for what and what limit?

 

Everyone's been digging into the underbanked recently because that's still an incomplete market... and pretty much where Chase goes Amex follows and vice versa TBH and Chase has been refactoring some of their products too though more on the checking side to my knowledge.

 

Ultimately everyone is talking about being "banks for life" or whatever, where they grow with the financial capabilities of their consumers rather than just offering one product that fits initially at the consumer's credit/financial tier and fails later and they wind up losing the consumer as a result to someone else (hi Penfed)... kind of like modern corporate America come to think of it and that's starting to change too. 

 

Anyway the lenders have already sorted the higher end tiers, so it makes sense they're going to start pushing into the lower tiers as there's clearly room beneath the traditional checking account / credit card underwriting and someone just starting out or in college or whatever.  

 

Secured cards filled that role before but banks are trying to find more inroads into that and have been for the last decade or so.

 




        
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K-in-Boston
Credit Mentor

Re: AMEX Reducing their standards? Friend approved with NO CREDIT

It really depends on the product and whether identity can be verified.  Just because the Discover was only a month old doesn't mean there wasn't already a credit file with Experian.  Did you have to wait 6 months because you had no Experian credit file?

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dragontears
Senior Contributor

Re: AMEX Reducing their standards? Friend approved with NO CREDIT

It happens, Amex can be very thin file friendly.
It frequently seems that as long as you have a pulse and a job with no recent baddies they will approve you lol (as long as you never burned them)
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wasCB14
Super Contributor

Re: AMEX Reducing their standards? Friend approved with NO CREDIT

I'm not sure if it would be legal for Amex to consider these...but maybe the customer lives in an affluent ZIP code? Or with relatives who have been good customers?

 

Do you have some ballpark idea of your friend's income?

Personal spend: Amex Gold, Amex Schwab Plat., BofA PR+CCR(x2), Costco
Business use: Amex Bus. Plat., BBP, Lowes Amex AU, CFU AU
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Isacking97
Regular Contributor

Re: AMEX Reducing their standards? Friend approved with NO CREDIT


@Cleaningitup2016 wrote:

What product was it?


Blue Cash Everyday



Starting Score:EX: 713 EQ: 698
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Isacking97
Regular Contributor

Re: AMEX Reducing their standards? Friend approved with NO CREDIT


@K-in-Boston wrote:

It really depends on the product and whether identity can be verified.  Just because the Discover was only a month old doesn't mean there wasn't already a credit file with Experian.  Did you have to wait 6 months because you had no Experian credit file?


Personally I had a credit card with my local bank back then and it reported on experian, but that was about 4 years ago, that's why I was surpriced.



Starting Score:EX: 713 EQ: 698
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K-in-Boston
Credit Mentor

Re: AMEX Reducing their standards? Friend approved with NO CREDIT


@Isacking97 wrote:

@K-in-Boston wrote:

It really depends on the product and whether identity can be verified.  Just because the Discover was only a month old doesn't mean there wasn't already a credit file with Experian.  Did you have to wait 6 months because you had no Experian credit file?


Personally I had a credit card with my local bank back then and it reported on experian, but that was about 4 years ago, that's why I was surpriced.


What was the reason for the 6 month wait?  My apologies if I wrongly assumed it was due to lack of a credit file.

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