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I stick with Mint as well. Tried YNAB, but its' import feature leaves much to be desired.
@longtimelurker wrote:For all the spreadsheet people, what is the value of your time! (Unless, as I suspect, most of the people that do this enjoy it). Set up autopay in full on due date and enjoy your freed up time!
Not quite managing in the same sense but there are apps like Wallaby aimed at telling you the best card to use for a particular purchase.
I've been writing my own web-app for managing finances entirely, including credit cards. I'm adding my own features like CLI reminders, 5/24 reminders, forecasting, cash flow forecasting, etc. Since it's my own site and code, no useless ads or fako data.
Why do this versus just autopay? It isn't about "saving time", it's about being cognizant of my spending habits. I really like manually entering things so I am going to retire Mint soon because Mint is just another game to get people to THINK they are in control when it's practically another idiot box like cable TV has become.
I love being able to sit down and type in my spend into each card. It helps me stay focused on my spend. I like seeing my own customized graphs to remind me that the $50 I was under budget has the potential to grow to $300 in the future so those tiny purchases I avoided have real potential instead of just being more clutter to deal with.
The automation of finance is an ugly thing, I think. I have everything set up on autopay "just in case", but I don't like it. I like being personally responsible for my time, my income and my expenses.
I hear a LOT from people who tell me they're "too busy" to do finances this way, but then I see them talking about 500 different news topics that have no effect on their lives, and I don't think they're actually too busy, I think they're too distracted.
Just my 2 cents (which could be worth a dime in 25 years if invested wisely!)
I use 1Password to store all my credit cards info and Bobby to remind me of due dates.
I have a budget in Excel with paycheck dates, credit card due dates, estimated rewards, IRA contributions, loans, insurance, rent, electric, etc. listed for the next three years. There's a running balance column so I know if I can afford purchases ahead of time and my bank account won't fall beneath the minimum. It didn’t take too much time to create and gives me a peace of mind.
And I have autopay set up to PIF, but frequently log into each account and keep an eye on things. I don't trust any one company enough to store all my financial data. Seems like companies are interested in playing catch up when it comes to security, rather than ensuring strong industry standards from the start.
*places tin hat back on head*
Sort of like Mint but they leave a bad taste ... Been slowly moving to Clarity Money, but also use Personal Capital for apps....
Kinda gave up on trying to create a good excel spreadsheet to put my data into...... Still on the lookout for one thats pretty quick and easy to enter stuff into....
Im of the opinion of what works for you works for you... Ill admit im a bit cheap.. YNAB just doesn't do anything for me that i already kinda do myself...
Try some different options out and see what works for you. Might need a combo of more than one solution...
-J
@Anonymous wrote:I have a spreadsheet.
For my 2017 credit rehab, I created a spreadsheet that let me know how far I was from various percentage thresholds, both cumulatively and for any given card. Happened to include due date & statement date, most recent amount & percentage reported and previous amount & percentage reported. Having the numbers in front of me and being able to see my progress provided motivation and incentive to stay on track. And if I slipped up, that was visible too. (Conditional formatting is my friend.)
Happily, all the current balances but one are now at zero, with all reported balances but one to be at zero by month's end.
EQ | 841 | 5 INQ (Auto, CC, HELOC, 2 mort) | 7y2m |
EX | 812 | 5 INQ (2 CC, 2 mort, HELoan) | 6y11m |
TU | 829 | 4 INQ (3 CC, 1 mort) | 6y6m |
5/24 | 3/12 | AoYA 0m | AoOA 23y6m | ~3% |
@Anonymous wrote:
@longtimelurker wrote:For all the spreadsheet people, what is the value of your time! (Unless, as I suspect, most of the people that do this enjoy it). Set up autopay in full on due date and enjoy your freed up time!
Not quite managing in the same sense but there are apps like Wallaby aimed at telling you the best card to use for a particular purchase.
I've been writing my own web-app for managing finances entirely, including credit cards. I'm adding my own features like CLI reminders, 5/24 reminders, forecasting, cash flow forecasting, etc. Since it's my own site and code, no useless ads or fako data.
Why do this versus just autopay? It isn't about "saving time", it's about being cognizant of my spending habits. I really like manually entering things so I am going to retire Mint soon because Mint is just another game to get people to THINK they are in control when it's practically another idiot box like cable TV has become.
I love being able to sit down and type in my spend into each card. It helps me stay focused on my spend. I like seeing my own customized graphs to remind me that the $50 I was under budget has the potential to grow to $300 in the future so those tiny purchases I avoided have real potential instead of just being more clutter to deal with.
The automation of finance is an ugly thing, I think. I have everything set up on autopay "just in case", but I don't like it. I like being personally responsible for my time, my income and my expenses.
I hear a LOT from people who tell me they're "too busy" to do finances this way, but then I see them talking about 500 different news topics that have no effect on their lives, and I don't think they're actually too busy, I think they're too distracted.
Just my 2 cents (which could be worth a dime in 25 years if invested wisely!)
For general budgeting and cash-flow analyis, I agree that this sort of thing can be time well spent, especially if you find limitations with the available tools.
But I get the impression, perhaps wrongly, that most people's credit card spreadsheet aren't like that, more reminders of when a payment is due, which, IMO, doesn't add a whole lot of value over autopay.