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I always hear you have to have excellent credit to get a credit card from AMEX. What does having an AMEX card means to you? Is it treated as the most Elite card?
Is having an AMEX card an indication you have excellent credit, high income? I know FICO doesn't factor income, but those things are asked in credit applications?
I have always been of the belief that if you felt you needed a credit card (OR a car, house, etc) to define who you are as a person, then you have failed miserably in life.
Someone with a "sub-prime" $500 CL Card, who is living withing their means, meeting their obligations and being fiscally sound is a far better credit risk then a person with a pocket full of "high CL Cards", maxed out and leveraged to the hilt.
We just seem to have periods of time where we go through these phases, when the character of a person is pushed aside and we get more concerned with what a person "has" instead of what they are.
Our son came home from College for the holidays several years ago and was beaming. Seems he had received a AMEX Card and thought he had arrived. I asked him why he felt like that and he said because "AMEX was a prestigious card and made a statement about him".
After a while I explained to him that here he was, in school, no permanent job, no assets, deep in student loan debt ,minimal established credit so how prestigious could a credit card be when they issued one to a person with that financial profile. I also informed him if he bought into the "No pre-set spending limit" just go out and try to charge a $25,000 Around the world cruise.
As for AMEX being considered elite, that was built on a reputation of exceptional customer service. They were also the first credit card to truly have world wide acceptance. With the advent of VISA and MASTERCARD being accepted everywhere that has since changed.
For me, I guess I can sum it up by saying I don't see that there are any "elite" Credit Cards, only "elite" customers.
@Anonymous wrote:I have always been of the belief that if you felt you needed a credit card (OR a car, house, etc) to define who you are as a person, then you have failed miserably in life.
Someone with a "sub-prime" $500 CL Card, who is living withing their means, meeting their obligations and being fiscally sound is a far better credit risk then a person with a pocket full of "high CL Cards", maxed out and leveraged to the hilt.
We just seem to have periods of time where we go through these phases, when the character of a person is pushed aside and we get more concerned with what a person "has" instead of what they areFor me, I guess I can sum it up by saying I don't see that there are any "elite" Credit Cards, only "elite" customers.
When I roll into a check cashing establishment to get a little payday or car title loan, I like to let my Amex card "accidentally" fall out as I am pulling out my driver's license.
Oh yeah baby,
I get all the respect I need. 1029% APR
@DI wrote:I always hear you have to have excellent credit to get a credit card from AMEX. What does having an AMEX card means to you? Is it treated as the most Elite card?
Is having an AMEX card an indication you have excellent credit, high income? I know FICO doesn't factor income, but those things are asked in credit applications?
The American Express Centurion Card, commonly referred to as the Black Amex is still considered the most High end, prestigious credit card anyone can get.
Yes there are competitors, but I gotta tell you, I personally genuflect in the presence of the Black Amex.
Any other Amex, so what.
I had my share of love / hate relationship with Amex. Honestly, I am not sure about prestige but having an Amex card for those who travel extensively makes lot of difference as the level of service and support they offer to customer is un-parallel to any other card. They are very good. But lately they have been known to be very finiky and bad due to all the recent FR's, CLD's and Card closures. Amex definitely has their own spot in the card market especially for those who travel quite a bit. I would not recommend any to loose their sleep over having the Amex card for prestige.