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chasmith
Valued Contributor

Re: Blacklists...

If you're blacklisted, the letter won't reference a CRA, it will say something like "prior experience with the applicant".

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bk510
Valued Contributor

Re: Blacklists...

@LS2982

 

yea u rright, GE is forgiving, i've burned them on my bk last yr and i apped for paypal mastercard, got turned down but approved me for smart connect account for 300.

 

hey its a new start for me, looking forward to getting in good graces wit GE.....

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bk510
Valued Contributor

Re: Blacklists...

@ls again,

 

walmart turned me down also couple of weeeks ago, but i'm have another go at it next month, i want dat fico score.

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Message 23 of 33
longtimelurker
Epic Contributor

Re: Blacklists...

Also, companies blacklist for other reasons that burning through chargeoffs. 

 

In its current Thank You "security" closure spree, those impacted will probably not be able to get any Citi cards for quite a while, and the same happened recently with Chase.   In some sense these are worse that the chargeoff case because there is nothing to be paid off to make it right, just have to wait to see if time makes things better....

Message 24 of 33
enharu
Super Contributor

Re: Blacklists...


@EaglesFan2006 wrote:

How would you ever know if you were blacklisted by a company?  I had a couple of cards charge off more than 10 years ago.  The debts have been paid and no evidence of any of those remain on CR today.  I never remember reading any of their letters saying I was "blacklisted". 


There's a few ways to tell.

1. If you burned American Express or Chase or Citi, chances are you're definitely blacklisted, at least for the near future. Whether you get off the list really depends. It's a YMMV thing.

 

2. When you apply for new accounts, they will deny you instantly, even though your scores might be really high and your CR looks spotless. Sometimes they will not even pull a hard inquiry, but sometimes you're not so lucky and they pull an inquiry even though the decision was already pre-determined.

 

3. After you are denied, you can call recons. Sometimes they'll tell you that you're denied, or that you're not eligible for any accounts with them.

 


@longtimelurker wrote:

Also, companies blacklist for other reasons that burning through chargeoffs. 

 

In its current Thank You "security" closure spree, those impacted will probably not be able to get any Citi cards for quite a while, and the same happened recently with Chase.   In some sense these are worse that the chargeoff case because there is nothing to be paid off to make it right, just have to wait to see if time makes things better....


+1

This as well.

They also blacklist people if fraud was involved (i.e. making fraudulent purchase protection claims).

 

 

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goosedog
Regular Contributor

Re: Blacklists...

CAP1 does blacklist. I know from personal experience because they turned me down for a SECURED CARD a week ago.

 

GE just approved me for a bunch of new cards in the last 2 weeks (Walmart, JC Penny, Care Credit, Old Navy, Banana Rep, Chevon,Amazon) considering I burned them in the past with a Walmart and Paypal card 5-6 years ago around the same time as my CAP1 card was burned.

 

CITI and CHASE are notorious for blacklisting people but NOTHING compared to American Express.

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knoregs
Established Contributor

Re: Blacklists...

Seems as if I'm on both Chase and Citi blacklist even though I burned them a dozen years ago. Burned Cap1 on two different cards at same time and currently have a 1 year old Cap1 card.

 

~kn


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Message 27 of 33
Justrebuilding
Regular Contributor

Re: Blacklists...

+1 this also happened to me.

Also add Barclays to this list, I just got denied for a card w them due to a card I had back in 08.

GE and Cap One have been very forgiving to me.


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Message 28 of 33
somnipotent
Frequent Contributor

Re: Blacklists...

I burned BoA and Citi during and after college.  All accounts have fallen off my CRs.  I'm not willing to risk an HP to apply for a Bankamericard or a Citi Thank You in case of flat out denial.  I'm not a fan of BoA though, they've been the crappiest insitution to deal with and I will never do business with them ever again.


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Message 29 of 33
100down0monthly
New Contributor

Re: Blacklists...


@goosedog wrote:

CAP1 does blacklist. I know from personal experience because they turned me down for a SECURED CARD a week ago.

 

GE just approved me for a bunch of new cards in the last 2 weeks (Walmart, JC Penny, Care Credit, Old Navy, Banana Rep, Chevon,Amazon) considering I burned them in the past with a Walmart and Paypal card 5-6 years ago around the same time as my CAP1 card was burned.

 

CITI and CHASE are notorious for blacklisting people but NOTHING compared to American Express.


@goosedog:  that's a lot of GE accounts to open in a short period of time.  i've read on other threads that GE ended up closing accounts.

 

Sorry, to get back on topic.  Are blacklists typically for a specific time frame...or are ya on the list forever?


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