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Can CA blocklist you from Amex

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b_seeker
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Re: Can CA blocklist you from Amex


@Angko wrote:

@enharu wrote:
Before she pays the CA, check out the rebuilding section. Maybe she can try to mend some bridges while she's at it.

Thanks enharu. I copied your comment and sent it to her. Does paying the full amount removes her from being blocklisted? I think she just needs to call Amex for that.


If she is already blacklisted, it's a bit of a crapshoot if paying the CA will actually cause Amex to take her off the list. The amount is one big factor. Also note, IF they end up taking her off the list, it will still be years before they approve her for anything.



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enharu
Super Contributor

Re: Can CA blocklist you from Amex

Basically I agree with LS said. I have a feeling that CA is trying to hint that they can take her off Amex blacklist, but my guess is that she's already blacklisted and will continue to be until Amex takes it off in their own. But if that CA is an internal department within Amex, or if they have some form of agreement with Amex, then maybe they can get her off the blacklist.

I wouldn't really count on it though. Even if she isn't blacklisted, chances of her getting another Amex within the next 3 years are slim to none
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Angko
Regular Contributor

Re: Can CA blocklist you from Amex

Would that be 3 years from the date of first delinquency? Anyways, she said she don't have any plans of applying for another Amex anymore.



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myjourney
Super Contributor

Re: Can CA blocklist you from Amex


@Angko wrote:

Would that be 3 years from the date of first delinquency? Anyways, she said she don't have any plans of applying for another Amex anymore.


No real true way of telling when Amex will let her back in 

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Message 14 of 20
b_seeker
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Re: Can CA blocklist you from Amex


@Angko wrote:

Would that be 3 years from the date of first delinquency? Anyways, she said she don't have any plans of applying for another Amex anymore.


Three years is probably being generous, IMO. (Depending on the amount, but even then). And with Amex, it would probably be from the time you PIF. Amex may never let her back in either way. Just forgetting about Amex would be for the best right now. There are people that burned Amex 20 years ago and still can't get their cards.



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Angko
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Re: Can CA blocklist you from Amex


@b_seeker wrote:

@Angko wrote:

Would that be 3 years from the date of first delinquency? Anyways, she said she don't have any plans of applying for another Amex anymore.


Three years is probably being generous, IMO. (Depending on the amount, but even then). And with Amex, it would probably be from the time you PIF. Amex may never let her back in either way. Just forgetting about Amex would be for the best right now. There are people that burned Amex 20 years ago and still can't get their cards.


Wow, 2 decades is a loooong time!!! I didn't know Amex is so strict!!!



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enharu
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Re: Can CA blocklist you from Amex

A lot of the prime lenders, chase and citi included, are about as strict when it comes to this. Generally it is a very bad idea to burn them unless you absolutely have no other choice.
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sjt
Senior Contributor

Re: Can CA blocklist you from Amex


@Angko wrote:

Thanks all for your input. My officemate has read all of your comments and is really thankful. She has decided to join the forum and will become a member in a few hours. Well, told her to pay the CA first before joining the forum. LOL.


Chances are that Amex has assigned her debt to the Collection Agency. The CA is collecting on Amex's behalf. If she makes arrangements with the CA tell her to ask them to be on the Oasis Program.

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Angko
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Re: Can CA blocklist you from Amex


@sjt wrote:

@Angko wrote:

Thanks all for your input. My officemate has read all of your comments and is really thankful. She has decided to join the forum and will become a member in a few hours. Well, told her to pay the CA first before joining the forum. LOL.


Chances are that Amex has assigned her debt to the Collection Agency. The CA is collecting on Amex's behalf. If she makes arrangements with the CA tell her to ask them to be on the Oasis Program.


Thanks SJT. My officemate talked to Amex already and I think Amex gave her a good payment plan. I really don't know the details but she was happy. Thanks. Smiley Happy



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sjt
Senior Contributor

Re: Can CA blocklist you from Amex


@Angko wrote:

@sjt wrote:

@Angko wrote:

Thanks all for your input. My officemate has read all of your comments and is really thankful. She has decided to join the forum and will become a member in a few hours. Well, told her to pay the CA first before joining the forum. LOL.


Chances are that Amex has assigned her debt to the Collection Agency. The CA is collecting on Amex's behalf. If she makes arrangements with the CA tell her to ask them to be on the Oasis Program.


Thanks SJT. My officemate talked to Amex already and I think Amex gave her a good payment plan. I really don't know the details but she was happy. Thanks. Smiley Happy


Good to hear!

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