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Re: Chase new account and CLI strategy


@icedwrote:

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@iced

 


To be honest, my daily driver (for other than business travel) is the Amex Delta Reserve.  I fly almost exclusively on Delta and it gives me access to all the Delta skyclubs, free first class companion voucher, and so on.  This was great while Costco took Amex.  Everything went on the Amex and any non-Amex spend went on the Citi MC.  So, now the Costco change is pushing me to a Visa branded card for all my "non-Amex" spending and I'll let the Citi MC sit idle/open (no annual fee on that one).


If you stay at Marriotts a bunch when you travel (guessing based on the Marriott card you have), why not use it for Costco? The PP lounges the CSR offers are garbage next to Sky Club, especially since you're flying Delta mostly. The 1.5 cpm rate on the portal isn't strong next to partner/mileage conversions, and Marriott points aren't worth the 1:1 transfer, especially when you can be earning that same rate on your existing card. so I would see the UR accumulation as a distraction from your travel focus of Delta/Marriott. 

 

If the CL is a concern, I'd go with the HP CLI route and not bother with another new account.

 

If there's an airline partner on UR that you are targeting, ignore everything I just said.

 

Food for thought. 


Yeah, good points.  I keep my business travel expenses seperate from my personal expenses by using different cards.  So, while I fly on Delta for work, still use my Marriott card to book those flights.  Then I book the hotel on the Marriott card as you'd expect.  It's rare that I pay for a hotel room with anything other than my Marriott card (because when I travel for fun I use points for the stays).  

 

So, the CSR has the high annual fee but the $300 travel credit (which I'll use for personal travel).  The single largest reason that I'm going with CSR is because I think it will give me the biggest credit line (which I can then transfer over to the Marriott card if that CLI gets denied for some reason).  Any other cards that you think would come with high CL?

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iced
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Re: Chase new account and CLI strategy


@Anonymouswrote:

@icedwrote:

@Anonymouswrote:

@iced

 


To be honest, my daily driver (for other than business travel) is the Amex Delta Reserve.  I fly almost exclusively on Delta and it gives me access to all the Delta skyclubs, free first class companion voucher, and so on.  This was great while Costco took Amex.  Everything went on the Amex and any non-Amex spend went on the Citi MC.  So, now the Costco change is pushing me to a Visa branded card for all my "non-Amex" spending and I'll let the Citi MC sit idle/open (no annual fee on that one).


If you stay at Marriotts a bunch when you travel (guessing based on the Marriott card you have), why not use it for Costco? The PP lounges the CSR offers are garbage next to Sky Club, especially since you're flying Delta mostly. The 1.5 cpm rate on the portal isn't strong next to partner/mileage conversions, and Marriott points aren't worth the 1:1 transfer, especially when you can be earning that same rate on your existing card. so I would see the UR accumulation as a distraction from your travel focus of Delta/Marriott. 

 

If the CL is a concern, I'd go with the HP CLI route and not bother with another new account.

 

If there's an airline partner on UR that you are targeting, ignore everything I just said.

 

Food for thought. 


Yeah, good points.  I keep my business travel expenses seperate from my personal expenses by using different cards.  So, while I fly on Delta for work, still use my Marriott card to book those flights.  Then I book the hotel on the Marriott card as you'd expect.  It's rare that I pay for a hotel room with anything other than my Marriott card (because when I travel for fun I use points for the stays).  

 

So, the CSR has the high annual fee but the $300 travel credit (which I'll use for personal travel).  The single largest reason that I'm going with CSR is because I think it will give me the biggest credit line (which I can then transfer over to the Marriott card if that CLI gets denied for some reason).  Any other cards that you think would come with high CL?


I have found once Chase likes you, the card doesn't matter. When I applied for the CSR, I got the same SL as a non-Sapphire Chase card I applied for previously. Some on here will howl at me and say that's not true, but those people are often looking to break a tier of CL ($5000, $10000). People with established reports, decent CLs on existing cards, and a good standing with Chase will get $30,000 SLs on a Freedom just as easily as they do $30,000 SLs on a CSR.

 
In other words, in your situation, you can go with whatever card of theirs works for you. If anything, based on our chat so far, I'd say go bigger on the Marriott since you value the night credits toward status. On top of the extra points, the Costco spend may well result in a few more of those each year, unless you're already hitting Platinum easily as they're doing away with rollover nights starting 2019.
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Anonymous
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Re: Chase new account and CLI strategy


@iced
unless you're already hitting Platinum easily as they're doing away with rollover nights starting 2019.

Oh... didn't know that.  Had 45 rollover nights 2017/18 (after hitting Platinum).  Will have to take a look at that.  

 

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Re: Chase new account and CLI strategy


@icedPeople with established reports, decent CLs on existing cards, and a good standing with Chase will get $30,000 SLs on a Freedom just as easily as they do $30,000 SLs on a CSR.
 

While I agree with your general thesis that those with strong profiles and positive existing Chase history can do very well with approvals with their lesser tiered cards like the Freedom, I don't think your statement above is very accurate.  A quick trip to the credit pulls database shows plenty of CSR approvals with $30k+ limits, but not a single Freedom approval with a $30k+ limit and really only a handful in the $20k-$29k range.  That's not to say there can't be exceptions, but I think it's worth noting that they would be exceptions and not the norm.

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AverageJoesCredit
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Re: Chase new account and CLI strategy

With your stats, sweating a hp shouldnt be a concern. If you have 800's and 150k plus income chances are youll get a good sl and for a chance to go 25k on a card seems worth a hp but i know everyone is different. Welcome to myFico and best of luckSmiley Happy
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Anonymous
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Re: Chase new account and CLI strategy


@AverageJoesCreditwrote:
With your stats, sweating a hp shouldnt be a concern. If you have 800's and 150k plus income chances are youll get a good sl and for a chance to go 25k on a card seems worth a hp but i know everyone is different. Welcome to myFico and best of luckSmiley Happy

Thanks, I appreciate it.  My original concern (somewhat lost in my own post) was if applying for a new card would block me from getting a CLI or vice versa.  Nobody has raised that concern... so I'm hopeful that it's not an issue.

 

I think I'll apply for the CSR first. (probably online) then I'll call in for the CLI on the Marriott card (or call in for a recon on the CSR if that goes sideways for some reason). 

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iced
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Re: Chase new account and CLI strategy


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@icedPeople with established reports, decent CLs on existing cards, and a good standing with Chase will get $30,000 SLs on a Freedom just as easily as they do $30,000 SLs on a CSR.
 

While I agree with your general thesis that those with strong profiles and positive existing Chase history can do very well with approvals with their lesser tiered cards like the Freedom, I don't think your statement above is very accurate.  A quick trip to the credit pulls database shows plenty of CSR approvals with $30k+ limits, but not a single Freedom approval with a $30k+ limit and really only a handful in the $20k-$29k range.  That's not to say there can't be exceptions, but I think it's worth noting that they would be exceptions and not the norm.


I'm not sure I follow. You disagree that people with good profiles and a history with Chase can get high CLs on most any Chase card, or you disagree that those same people don't get similar CLs on non-premium Chase cards that they do on premium Chase cards? The credit pulls database can't be filtered to only show people "with establish reports, decent CLs on existing cards, and a good standing with Chase" so I'm not sure what point it's showing.

 

If you're just pointing out that among the larger general audience, people will get a higher SL on a CSR than on a Freedom, I agree with that though for unrelated reasons to this discussion. They're also not who I'm talking about, but I agree nonetheless.

 

At any rate, I don't think someone with the OP's profile shouldn't have much problem.

 
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Krowdy
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Re: Chase new account and CLI strategy

I got approved for the CSR a few days ago with SL of $28k. The pull EX and EQ. I’m in Louisiana.
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Anonymous
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Re: Chase new account and CLI strategy

Circling back on this one.  Chase gave me an Auto-CLI (from $9k to $16.5k) on my Marriott card just prior to statement close.  Must have heard me talking about them.  Honestly, I'd like more, but this bump helped me decide to pull the trigger on the CSR.  Instant approval for $30k.  

 

Any thoughts on if I should call them up and ask for an additional CLI on the Marriott co-branded card?  I'd really like that up at $25k or higher.

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Re: Chase new account and CLI strategy


@iced

I'm not sure I follow. You disagree that people with good profiles and a history with Chase can get high CLs on most any Chase card, or you disagree that those same people don't get similar CLs on non-premium Chase cards that they do on premium Chase cards? The credit pulls database can't be filtered to only show people "with establish reports, decent CLs on existing cards, and a good standing with Chase" so I'm not sure what point it's showing.


 

I disagree that the same people don't get similar CLs on non-premium Chase cards.  If someone with great Chase history and a great credit profile app for both a CSR and a Freedom, I don't see any scenario where the Freedom would be given the same CL as the CSR.  It would be a unicorn outlier example if that were the case.  Again, referencing the credit pulls database, there are no $30k Freedom approvals on there.  It doesn't matter if you can filter the credit pulls database; you're seeing ALL data points.  If there isn't a single one showing a $30k Freedom approval SL, it's either because there aren't any, or you're saying that not a single person with an ideal profile has apped for the Freedom and reported their result to the credit pulls database (but tons have with the CSR, CSP, etc).

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